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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Anish Koka‏ @anish_koka 15 Dec 2021

      Anish Koka Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      If you see a known complication of a therapy happen in a tiny group of people, that’s pretty concerning. As a cardiologist, I find the constant attempts to minimize the frequency and severity of these adverse events from many quarters really strange.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1471166555094405129 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @rfsquared
      You’re giving a public point estimate from a sample of 78? And one incident among the 39? Like how? The confidence interval on that is big enough to string together a few aircraft carriers, and have room to spare.
      8 replies 24 retweets 110 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Dec 2021
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      If you read up and down that thread, there is not any effort, at least by me, to minimize the risk but a discussion about the context for evaluating the risk re:age/sex/dose and post-infection risk, and also not saying things like 1 in 39 from a sample of 78.

      10:30 AM - 15 Dec 2021
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        2. From Chicago‏ @FromChicagoland 15 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @anish_koka

          Fair, but you’re also not saying boosters for the age group should be halted. You said they shouldn’t be “prioritized” for boosters despite knowing that risk of death/hospitalization from Covid in teens without comorbidities is tiny. Teens with 2 jabs are basically bulletproof.

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        3. Angry Statistician‏ @AngryStats 15 Dec 2021
          Replying to @FromChicagoland @zeynep @anish_koka

          Exactly! That is the problem with current PH guidelines. Unscientific madness.

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        2. Ramin Farzaneh-Far MD‏ @rfsquared 15 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @anish_koka

          “…not saying things like…” why shouldn’t they be said? Why the urge to censor a “public point estimate”? The numbers are taken directly from the trial and the assumptions to get to a NOMINAL 1/39 are clearly laid out and would be familiar to anyone experienced in running them

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        2. Anish Koka‏ @anish_koka 15 Dec 2021
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          Anish Koka Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          If this was any other medical therapy, the conversation with the data to date wouldn’t be about this being a ‘low priority’ group for the therapy.. An IndivualiZed decision of course, but can’t you adequately/reasonably protect granny by boosting her?https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1471171988093915145 …

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          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          Replying to @zeynep @VPrasadMDMPH @rfsquared
          We already know this group has low severe outcome risk, so not sure there's that much measurable mystery there, but we also know this is an infectious disease and these young people have parents and grandparents. But I don't disagree that this is not a priority booster category.
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        3. Angry Statistician‏ @AngryStats 15 Dec 2021
          Replying to @anish_koka @zeynep

          And boosting the kid with current vax is not going to protect the granny! Omicron infection and spread in boosted clearly shows that! Shocking how they insist not to acknowledge that by now!

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