… coming from Liang Wannian that the accountant had some non-fever symptoms on December 8 and that they think the symptom had to do with his eventual confirmed Covid, and on the other hand, as described earlier, the various contemporaneous records that the accountant started …
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… having a fever on December 16.
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Replying to @zhihuachen @MichaelWorobey
As I say in the thread, I appreciate the effort of everyone, but I don't think the first revealed-to-us cases can make that much progress *either way* without some new data, given how China has been stonewalling, and how much of a mess even the WHO list has been the whole time.
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I mean, the Wuhan CDC is right next to market with an extensive bat?/virus collection effort itself, and there are so many open questions about it. Alternatively, the market could be the source and have cryptic transmission all the way to unconnected sources, before us noticing.
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It takes real effort and investigation to tease out such complicated things, and we don't have it. Seems credible that China knows of other, likely earlier cases, and surely, they've done the blood-bank testing etc. I'm not sure how we confidently conclude much, given censorship.
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As the person who pointed out the dental record was a kid, I think
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Replying to @Drinkwater5Reed @zeynep and
Quick search of fever plus the first antibiotic they tried and the TCM Reduning - 发热 头孢美矬 热毒宁 turns up tons of results. It’s a common thing they do….
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Don't go there, please
. U gonna expose unspoken secret of Reduning.
It's a 'universal' accompanied drug...
It can be used to treat COVID now, and whatever next pathogen(s) will be, it can surely be used to treat that too......
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http://www.ce.cn/cysc/sp/info/201404/30/t20140430_2746795.shtml … This report proves it. 2013 Shenzhen drug adverse event report: 头孢美矬 #2 in reported incidents among antibiotics, 热毒宁 #2 in reported incidents among TCM injection.
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Hey, appreciate how much work you guys do chasing down leads. And also, yeah, antibiotic overuse... But I think the key point with Mr. Chen remains how little we know because we aren't told, and that there are likely many earlier cases anyway. Please do untag me for now! Thanks.
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