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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Michael Worobey

      Plot twist for the Science article that generated many headlines about the initial known case being connected to the Wuhan market. As author graciously acknowledges here, the internet researchers—so-called sleuths—have shown the claim to be wrong. Will there be new headlines?https://twitter.com/MichaelWorobey/status/1470159029997428736 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Michael Worobey @MichaelWorobey
      I think the jury is still out. But I think the idea that the Dec 8 date came from Mr Chen having a dental problem is very likely incorrect, and I will be in touch with Science to correct the record. 17/
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Dec 2021

      But more. If you read his thread, he correctly points out first *known* case isn’t that dispositive. But that’s not how the media coverage played out. It will be interesting to see if what they considered so important before is seen as just as important now that it is reversed.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Dec 2021

      There was credible reporting China knows of November cases. What little they told us of December cases is contradictory, incoherent and incomplete. I don’t think it’s possible to make sound conclusions. Their scientists long said market was an amplifying event. But we don’t know.

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    4. Gabriel Leonardo‏ @ecogabriel1 12 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      NHK aired a documentary on COVID origins. They showed that in Wuhan it has been a big increase in hospital visits (or admissions) during November 2019 coincidentally with the flu season.https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/tv/documentary/20210411/4001389/ …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Dec 2021
      Replying to @ecogabriel1

      Well that could also be… flu season.

      8:23 PM - 12 Dec 2021
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        1. Gabriel Leonardo‏ @ecogabriel1 12 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          There's a chart with a comparison between seasons (cannot remember the precise item being compared for the hospital for which they got data) and the diff. Was big. True, hard to tell when it was happening. You would have liked watching it (it had a second part as well)

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