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    1. Raffi‏ @rak3re 8 Dec 2021

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      Maybe it really is a three-dose vaccine. Okay. But we can see with our eyes that this is being done on the fly. And there would be nothing wrong with that either if arrogant public officials weren’t projecting utter certainty and contemplating punitive actions for noncompliance. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1468395294312255489 …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021
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      How do you not do this on the fly with a novel virus and a pandemic? Many vaccines adjust dosing based on post-approval studies, to figure out optimum dosing schedule. Three isn’t uncommon.

      8:14 PM - 8 Dec 2021
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        1. Ed Brown‏ @efb_1 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @rak3re

          Read the 2nd paragraph of the tweet you are replying to? From your reply, it seems like you might have missed that.

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        2. Raffi‏ @rak3re 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          My objection is not that it’s on the fly or that three may be the optimal dosage. There is, of course, no other way to do it but on the fly. My objection is with the idea that we can punitively enforce any of this as if we had certainty.

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        3. KR‏ @KingofFrogtown 9 Dec 2021
          Replying to @rak3re @zeynep

          Right? We're making this up as we go, have some rushed science behind it, and everyone must get on board or be left behind in society. Skeptics be damned.

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        1. Sea Normans‏ @31419079A 8 Dec 2021
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          We have six months of reports, expert opinion, and institutional declarations that a vaccine could not be appropriately/ethically tested, produced, and distributed in less than three years. Three years was on the fly and would have been uncommon. What we have is so far beyond...

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        1. Pass SR1 and save our democracy‏ @BabiesFree 8 Dec 2021
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          Hah! That’s what I just wrote. Wow, I feel extremely smart now. :)

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        1. be3‏ @be335651783 9 Dec 2021
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          Of course, but now maybe it's about to be 4 doses? Why don't we just admit we don't know how long each dose will last? Starting to look like q6-12mo forever if you want to minimize risk of any infection.https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/08/omicron-pfizer-ceo-says-we-may-need-fourth-covid-vaccine-doses-sooner-than-expected.html …

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