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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      There seems to be people who are convinced getting infected is some sort of heroic effort, and vaccines are for the weak? I increasingly suspect this may be driven in some by fear of needles, which is exactly why letting people know this is a common condition is important.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1468628813710041091 …

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      *Given sufficient supply*, why should anyone risk transmitting this to someone else when there’s a straightforward way to reduce the risk? What’s the Sisyphean effort? Nobody is storming the beaches at Normandy. There are programs for those afraid of needles, if that’s your fear?
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021

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      Boosters will definitely reduce the risk, and many vaccines are three-dose primary series. Likely this one is too. Maybe there will be annual boosters, like flu. Still, avoiding vaccination isn't like storming the beach at Normandy. Why is it valorized?https://twitter.com/LGFi0rnkELg0KDn/status/1468630674856890374 …

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      The QT has the underlying assumption that you can avoid infection with steady boosters. I don't think that's at all possible?
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021

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      Because the pandemic isn't over, and we now have yet another variant. Resisting the ways to end the pandemic is big part of the problem. Again, avoiding vaccines isn't some heroic act. https://twitter.com/GeordieStory/status/1468631651982794756?s=20 …

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021

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      "EARNED." Is this a version of how real man don't need to look at the map or ask for directions? The virus isn't a moral agent, nor does it live by Calvinist ethics and strictures. Vaccines strengthen immunity, and lessen chances of transmitting. Simple. https://twitter.com/NuclearNemesis/status/1468632712986697729 …

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021

      If the beef is immunity from natural infection hasn't been taken enough into account in policies and messaging. Sure. I've agreed with that all along. But vaccines help even those with prior infections and infectious diseases are a risk to others. It's not heroic to avoid a dose.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021

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      People don't know any history. Perhaps the core story of that "more enlightened" 20th century has been an immense effort and the wholesale transformation of our societies to lessen the scourge of infectious diseases, which stalked humanity forever.https://twitter.com/tristaneldritch/status/1468641821878362121 …

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      tristan eldritch @tristaneldritch
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      Vaccines aren't scary - people like you are. People who support the permanent radical empowerment of the state and transformation of our societies on the basis of a virus which would have barely caused the world to shrug in the more enlightened 20th century.
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021

      Yes, I wish we lived in a world where squashed the early outbreaks with effective mitigations, and then quickly got enough vaccines to vaccinate globally. Letting the virus continue to explore the whole @#$! fitness landscape like this really wasn't a good idea. But here we are.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted  ☣️ Michael Ç̸̠͎͉̹̼̠͔̗̓̐̐̓̓̀͝͝. Bazaco  ☣️

      Agree! Was only talking about people who declare loudly and act like it's an act of heroism to avoid vaccination, like the person who is quoted. I'm getting some of that in my mentions. It seems like some of them are just afraid to admit a fear?https://twitter.com/MCBazacoPhD/status/1468663573954146310 …

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       ☣️ Michael Ç̸̠͎͉̹̼̠͔̗̓̐̐̓̓̀͝͝. Bazaco  ☣️ @MCBazacoPhD
      As someone who has been trying to fight antivax rhetoric since long before COVID, this is an absurd take. While fear of needles is real, it is absolutely not a significant driver of the anti-vaccine movement. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1468630151542026246 …
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        2. Mo Perry‏ @MoMoPerry 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Respectfully, I think you're misunderstanding the argument. Many ppl have a "minimum effective dose" preference when it comes to medical interventions and pharmaceuticals. If 2 shots are protective against severe disease and any additional benefit from a booster is transitory...

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        3. Mo Perry‏ @MoMoPerry 8 Dec 2021
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          ...and eventual infection with an endemic respiratory virus (with a big age-stratified risk profile) seems inevitable, it's not unreasonable to say, "I've got my protection, and I'll choose to get my inevitable hybrid immunity sooner than later."

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        2. Pocket Aces‏ @FritzBGuy 8 Dec 2021
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          But for certain folks who think that even just wearing a mask is emasculating, perhaps spreading the notion of anti-vaxxers as needle-phobic would up the peer pressure to vax. At minimum, we could have some fun “needling” them.

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        3. Pocket Aces‏ @FritzBGuy 8 Dec 2021
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          Don’t underestimate the powerful pressure to conform to gender roles. I walked into a Mich store in 2020 and was struck that all women were masked and all men weren’t. I was surprised/embarrassed at the pressure I felt to unmask, but I saw an elderly cashier & knew what was right

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        1. Covid Update‏ @covidupdate_ 9 Dec 2021
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          When we talk about "them", we're talking about us. People have every right to choose not to get vaccinated - choosing what happens to our own bodies is a basic and fundamental human right. Let's respect choice. We're at a very dangerous juncture.https://medium.com/@nathan.munn/the-most-dangerous-moment-7c23747c2fe1 …

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