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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @aeminorhan @TheNickFoy

      You guys seem to think getting infected some heroic accomplishment. I guess you live a life with so little risk or accomplishment that you’ve lost all sense of what’s actually heroic? Vaccines aren’t that scary! Even most children manage it without crying.

      52 replies 3 retweets 138 likes
    2. Eli Klein‏ @TheEliKlein 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @aeminorhan @TheNickFoy

      You keep bringing this conversation back to Covid vaccines, but I don’t think the main point here is about boosters. It’s about completely moving on from Covid restrictions.

      5 replies 1 retweet 101 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @TheEliKlein @aeminorhan @TheNickFoy

      Protecting people, especially the vulnerable is the best way to move on, and again, and that's what vaccines do. It's an infectious disease, and, at a minimum, elderly and the immunocompromised aren't society's leftovers.

      20 replies 3 retweets 64 likes
    4. Eli Klein‏ @TheEliKlein 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @aeminorhan @TheNickFoy

      I don’t see how any of this is relevant. Nobody is calling people leftovers. Elderly & immunocompromised people existed before Covid, too. All we’re saying is that we’re not going to attempt to avoid an unavoidable Coronavirus, especially when those attempts come with great harm.

      5 replies 1 retweet 73 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @TheEliKlein @aeminorhan @TheNickFoy

      They existed before and now there is a novel virus that is a great threat to them because it's novel. I mean, really? This is like saying why deploy the fire department, the house was there before. Because. There. Is. A. Fire. Now. And what's the great harm of vaccines?

      23 replies 0 retweets 50 likes
    6. Eli Klein‏ @TheEliKlein 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @aeminorhan @TheNickFoy

      Post Covid vaccination elderly & immunocompromised people face comparable risks from Covid as they have faced their entire lives… And again, who is saying there is “great harm of vaccines”?

      3 replies 0 retweets 23 likes
    7. Nick Foy‏ @TheNickFoy 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @TheEliKlein @zeynep @aeminorhan

      I have no idea what she's talking about. For the record, @zeynep, Eli and I are both vaccinated. I believe so much in the power of vaccines that at this point there should be no more harmful and useless NPIs when this PI is far more effective.

      5 replies 0 retweets 35 likes
    8. PharmD McGee‏ @PharmDMcGee 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @TheNickFoy @TheEliKlein and

      I don't know what happened. She used to have more reasonable, nuanced takes on the pandemic and our response. What you guys are saying is in no way illogical, yet she still reacts as if removing NPIs in a mostly vaccinated country is crazy talk.

      1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @PharmDMcGee @TheNickFoy and

      The country is not mostly vaccinated. Plus,the world is not mostly vaccinated. Plus, three-dose primary series are not rare for vaccines. Yes, I'd rather live in a world where we produced enough in the first six months to vaccinate globally, which would have shortened all this.

      8 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Eli Klein‏ @TheEliKlein 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @PharmDMcGee and

      Over 50% = mostly.

      2 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021
      Replying to @TheEliKlein @PharmDMcGee and

      Fine, if we're focusing on wording. Substantively, that is not sufficient and crucially, pandemics don't end within a single country unless you completely isolate it.

      10:18 AM - 8 Dec 2021
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