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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Nick Foy‏ @TheNickFoy 7 Dec 2021

      Nick Foy Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      What this data shows is that protecting already vaccinated people from infection is a really bad idea.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1468347730133192708 …

      Nick Foy added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      First lab results on Omicron, from @sigallab.🙏 Not great, but not as catastrophic as it could have been. Tested with 2x Pfizer, and shows, yeah, it'll cause a lot of breakthroughs. Those with vaccine *and* infection appeared much more protected: suggests boosters will work well. https://twitter.com/_b_meyer/status/1468319835012673549 …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Dec 2021
      Replying to @TheNickFoy

      Wait what you think we should get infected after vaccination so that... we are better protected against infection after vaccination? Given sufficient supply, I'll take the vaccination route.

      24 replies 0 retweets 129 likes
    3. Nick Foy‏ @TheNickFoy 7 Dec 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      You may want to reconsider based on this data. Also, a post vax infection in a healthy person is likely to be extremely mild.pic.twitter.com/llaDImQSO0

      3 replies 0 retweets 35 likes
    4. Nick Foy‏ @TheNickFoy 7 Dec 2021
      Replying to @TheNickFoy @zeynep

      Also, given sufficient supply, I'd prefer my booster dose go to someone in a lower income country without access who hasn't yet had a first dose. You with me on that, @zeynep?

      1 reply 0 retweets 23 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Dec 2021
      Replying to @TheNickFoy

      I’ve repeatedly advocated for that. One can hold that to be true without disregarding the obvious evidence that this, like many other vaccines, looks like a 3x dose primary series—should be equitably distributed globally for sure.

      5:41 PM - 7 Dec 2021
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        1. Nick Foy‏ @TheNickFoy 7 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Nick Foy Retweeted Jake Scott, MD

          I'm pretty sure that two doses continue to prevent severe outcomes for most people who weren't at high risk anyway, so I'm not sure I agree.https://twitter.com/jakescottMD/status/1441071616104955907?t=w4Ct1nJfpaJdvLyB7Mx8kA&s=19 …

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          Jake Scott, MD @jakescottMD
          “Covid-19 vaccination: evidence of waning immunity is overstated” @bmj_latest editorial by me, @mugecevik, & @AaronRichterman https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2320 …
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        1. Fanni K‏ @fannika 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @TheNickFoy

          Is there a chance after 3 we stop? Why boost IF: - I have been exposed to lab-confirmed Covid very directly in all the circumstances considered dangerous but was negative; AND - Based IGG Spike Protein Test have protection from 2. Get boosted to protect those at risk? Works?

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        2. Anthony DiPierro‏ @DipierroAnthony 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @TheNickFoy

          I’ll take you at your word that it’s obvious to you that this looks like a 3x dose primary series. But could you explain to us who don’t find that obvious:

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        3. Anthony DiPierro‏ @DipierroAnthony 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @DipierroAnthony @zeynep @TheNickFoy

          1) what does that mean (how do we differentiate a 2 dose primary series plus regular boosters from a 3 dose primary series plus regular boosters)? And 2) Why is it obvious?

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        2. Wes Pegden‏ @WesPegden 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @TheNickFoy

          "looks like a 3x dose vaccine" feels a bit ambiguous. Certainly we all think the benefits of 1st dose is greater than the 2nd is greater than the third, right? Do we really expect 4th,5th,6th doses would give no temporary increase in antibodies or protection from infection?

          4 replies 3 retweets 34 likes
        3. Robert Warns‏ @bobbywarnsiii 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @WesPegden @zeynep @TheNickFoy

          I would imagine that Zeynep used "looks like" to intentionally signal uncertainty...which seems appropriate given the ever changing and evolving landscape and knowledgeable set

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        1. Jeff Bullard‏ @JeffBullard16 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @TheNickFoy

          "obvious evidence" this is a "3 dose primary series" Not true and you know it. It was one or two dose primary. Now its regular boosters and adapted vaccines going forward. Be honest.

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        2. J‏ @FollowJonCone 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @TheNickFoy

          What other vaccine requires 3x doses in the first 9 months at minimum?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Dec 2021
          Replying to @FollowJonCone @TheNickFoy

          Is this a serious question? https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html …

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. 1983‏ @LGFi0rnkELg0KDn 10 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @TheNickFoy

          If we all agree that a 3x dose vaccine is not to stop infection, but to limit outcomes from infection then the data from the nejm paper showing booster outcomes is pretty enlightening? 1/

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        3. 1983‏ @LGFi0rnkELg0KDn 10 Dec 2021
          Replying to @LGFi0rnkELg0KDn @zeynep @TheNickFoy

          The same percentage of people who had an infection in both boost and unboost had the same outcomes. https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2115926/suppl_file/nejmoa2115926_appendix.pdf …

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