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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Priscilla Gilman

      Agree. I was skeptical in summer—especially since the early data was so confounded. But since then, long before Omicron, we had high-quality data strongly suggesting this is a three-dose primary series. (Happens with many vaccines!). We must equitably vaccinate the world as such.https://twitter.com/priscillagilman/status/1466440935445782530 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Priscilla Gilman @priscillagilman
      Replying to @apoorva_nyc @rcr_pereira and 7 others
      I’m encouraged that you think we’ll have Omicron boosters in 2-3 months! In any case, as @zeynep @PeterHotez @EricTopol and others have been saying for a while now, this is turning out to be a 3 shot vaccine. Calling the third shot a booster was a mistake in retrospect
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Carl T. Bergstrom

      I think this is correct. For younger men, there may be an argument against the third shot, though hopefully we will soon get better data on that. (Does the yes very low but real myocarditis risk increase from two to three? Not sure we know yet.)https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1466195783074598912?s=20 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Carl T. BergstromVerified account @CT_Bergstrom
      I don't buy it. Many experts may have been hesitant last July — I was. But well before omicron arrived, sufficient evidence was in place to support boosters for all adults (possibly excepting males <29 yrs) and this was pretty broadly accepted by experts. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/01/health/covid-omicron-vaccines.html?smid=tw-share … pic.twitter.com/nBPQtxk8kI
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted magdalena steinrück

      Yes, the third shot isn't just restoring "waning" efficacy, but goes beyond that, and antibodies increase in quality as well as quantity. I will look for a solid article on this (Maybe @dylanhmorris or @andrew_croxford or someone can write an explainer?)https://twitter.com/m_sciencerocks/status/1466446660368805892 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      magdalena steinrück @m_sciencerocks
      Replying to @zeynep
      Can you give more background on how a three-dose primary series perspective is different from 2+booster? Is there reason to believe the 3 dose immunity will be longer lasting (omicron left aside)?
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Anthony DiPierro

      If that is where we end up, this is not at all terrible as an outcome, tbh. Even before the pandemic, I was an avid reader of human history—aka the devastating toll of infectious diseases—and I consider safe and effective vaccines to be wondrous miracles.https://twitter.com/DipierroAnthony/status/1466446586523881475 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Anthony DiPierro @DipierroAnthony
      Replying to @zeynep
      A three-dose primary series followed by a booster every 12 months to handle the latest variant of concern?
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Where the Tweets have no name

      In fairness, the early Israeli data was heavily-confounded. And equity concerns do remain valid. What baffles me is this: There. Have. Since. Been. Highly. Quality. Randomized. Placebo-Controlled. Trials. They were not ambiguous. It's been pretty clear.https://twitter.com/andrewthesmart/status/1466448646455500804 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Where the Tweets have no name @andrewthesmart
      Replying to @zeynep
      i mean the data out of Israel was clear on boosters in the summer. the problem to me was ID/MD bluechecks questioning whether we should try prevent infections! i'm still flabbergasted by this attitude that is prevalent.
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted diper911

      This is how I feel. We should incorporate lessons from this to better protect against other airborne respiratory diseases, but presenting a booster once a year as some sort of calamity is the ultimate in 21st century problems. Go read some history, folks.https://twitter.com/fKathryn/status/1466449150845886474 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      diper911 @fKathryn
      Replying to @zeynep
      I am doing SO MUCH MORE w/r/t Covid risk mitigation right now than showing up for a shot once a year! Once a year would be a dream!!
      9 replies 40 retweets 212 likes
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted John Anderson

      Looking at other vaccines, a three-shot primary series (once) and then a (maybe) annual booster (depending on whether a new variant emerges/circulation levels) for adults, and just adding this to childhood series would be my guess.https://twitter.com/truth_campaign/status/1466450587436949517 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      John Anderson @truth_campaign
      Replying to @zeynep
      You mean a 3-shot annual vaccine?
      7 replies 7 retweets 84 likes
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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ariel Karlinsky

      We had randomized, placebo-controlled observer-blind trials on the third shot, that's how.https://twitter.com/ArielKarlinsky/status/1466451738035118082 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Ariel Karlinsky @ArielKarlinsky
      Replying to @zeynep
      Not just confounded but HEAVILY confounded! In what way? And how is current data NOT confounded?
      3 replies 2 retweets 81 likes
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Matthew Marchant

      Yes, and not only because they, too, can get sick and even die—even if much much less so than adults—they can transmit. No child should face the burden of being in a transmission chain to their family. We vaccinate kids against much less deadly diseases.https://twitter.com/MatthewMarchant/status/1466455919848472583 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Matthew Marchant @MatthewMarchant
      Replying to @zeynep
      Do you think under 18 should be vaccinated? If so, why?
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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 2 Dec 2021

          Many. See below from the ACIP meeting. Also, infectious diseases are, well, infectious. Vaccinating children to protect them from the burden of being in the transmission chain that can sicken or even kill their family members is a perfectly good reason. https://twitter.com/Percy43555292/status/1466465048285614091 …pic.twitter.com/jNjTOJnDlJ

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        2. Robert Warns‏ @bobbywarnsiii 2 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Robert Warns Retweeted Gregory Travis -- "The Duke of Mild" (TM)

          Polio was asymptomatic in the vast majority of children and only around .5 to 1% of children were paralyzed by polio. Never hear anyone complaining about polio vaccinationshttps://twitter.com/greg_travis/status/1466189876257341445?t=BQEUzcPqHzI_oKUvHkbGXg&s=19 …

          Robert Warns added,

          Gregory Travis -- "The Duke of Mild" (TM) @greg_travis
          I post often comparing polio to COVID When I do, I usually point out that polio infections are 95% clinically mild -- 950 of every 1,000 people infected with polio never knew it I do not do this to minimize polio. Quite the opposite, particularly as I am old enough to...
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        3. Polly‏ @oi_tillymint 2 Dec 2021
          Replying to @bobbywarnsiii @zeynep

          Replying to @bobbywarnsiii in England and Wales in 2020, 1 child under the age of 10 died from covid-19. Aged 10-14 it was 4. 15-19 it was 10. 16 kids out of 13 million. That is .000001 %. So a bit of a difference there.

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        2. aneke‏ @feltiae 2 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          that's a nice story if the vaccines actually prevented transmission.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. jp‏ @garugurugaru 2 Dec 2021
          Replying to @feltiae @zeynep

          It reduces transmission! Esp with 3 shots.

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        2. CdnLiberty‏ @LibertyCdn 2 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Covid is not deadly for children. Vaccines do not entirely prevent transmission. And the side effect profile of these vaccines is worse than any other, with long-term effects on children still unknown.

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        3. observing this filth unsettles me‏ @matryoshka_core 2 Dec 2021
          Replying to @LibertyCdn @zeynep

          It's nice that your criterion is COVID being "deadly", like a child getting pneumonia (which doesn't even count as "severe illness" by covid categories btw) is no big deal in your world

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        1. Jim Lynch‏ @jimlynch9999 2 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          If I recall correctly, children get rubella vaccinations to protect fetuses. The disease is rarely harmful to the kids themselves. https://www.cdc.gov/rubella/index.html …

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        2. Eli Perencevich, MD MS 🧼  😷‏Verified account @eliowa 2 Dec 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @notdred

          Exactly. Most of the breakthrough cases we are seeing in our highly vaccinated town are from unvaccinated kids to their parents. The vaccines are far far better at preventing transmission than has been widely reported. Rarer to see vax-vax transmission than people think

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        3. Matthew Marchant‏ @MatthewMarchant 2 Dec 2021
          Replying to @eliowa @zeynep @notdred

          Don’t we just need the parents vaccinated then?

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