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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Nov 2021

      South Africa has gifted us an early warning with Omicron. But earlier the warning, the less we know. Still, we must act now, while waiting for clarity. We need smart, comprehensive measures, not pandemic theater. Can we please, finally learn? New from me: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/28/opinion/covid-omicron-travel-ban-testing.html …pic.twitter.com/O3EI8lDam6

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Nov 2021

      We argue over travel bans, and sometimes implement them but in a way that makes little sense. Early containment measures *can* buy time, but they have to be *for real* containment, not just passport exclusion. (Virus doesn't care). And the real issue is using that time wisely.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Nov 2021

      This is *not* like where we were with Alpha or Delta when we first heard about them. Thanks to South Africa, we have such an early warning that it's impossible to be sure. Everything is still on the table. Fizzles out totally, catastrophe, in-between? Gotta wait for data.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Nov 2021

          Plus, I'm all for early, aggressive action when facing exponential threats but there needs to be benchmarks and a timeline for reversing precautionary steps. Such restrictions *are* a burden, and haphazardly putting a few in place and forgetting about them is not okay.pic.twitter.com/X2FTJyaK2i

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Nov 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Clare Hendry

          The world owes South Africa—a lot. It's also possible that they were simply the first to detect Omicron—and it's widespread already. We absolutely need to provide resources to them—and to the region. It's the right thing to do, and our moral obligation.https://twitter.com/Clare_Hendry/status/1465000341481603086 …

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          Clare Hendry @Clare_Hendry
          Replying to @zeynep
          The immediate knee jerk travel bans have decimated what was left of the South African tourism and film industries. Many thousands of jobs lost. We do not have the resources to provide a safety net like developed nations. Surely there's a moral argument here too?
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Nov 2021

          When facing an exponential threat under uncertainty, it's a *great* idea to put in friction quickly. Buying time is great! But we have to do it properly, then use that time, and be ready to reverse or change course quickly. Otherwise, we get all the burden but not the benefits.

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Nov 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted DemandaCovidRecount

          This is a myth. Especially for a virus that can transmit early in disease course, like this one, selection pressure is on transmission, not virulence. So a new variant can be MORE or LESS virulent (when everything else equal, i.e. host immunity).https://twitter.com/soccervolleymom/status/1465074442044850183 …

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          DemandaCovidRecount @soccervolleymom
          Replying to @zeynep
          After all this time, content creators don't know that more transmissible is typically very good. =Less virulent. They also don't know the gov isn't capable of modifying anything quickly or capturing quality data. Let the states address or ignore as they see fit.
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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Nov 2021

          OTOH, both immune evasion and intrinsic higher transmissibility contribute to higher Rt. For ex, if Omicron can evade antibodies and is reinfecting people, cases will go up but might be milder with cellular immunity (T&B) cells kicking in. Need time and data to sort it out.

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        7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Nov 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Nate in LA

          I get this. The key here is communicating that, unlike Alpha and Delta, we got an early enough warning with Omicron that… we DON’T know if it is a big threat, but we should act like it *might* be till we figure it out a bit more. It could fizzle out or it could be a big threat.https://twitter.com/natem42/status/1465075979462742016 …

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          Nate in LA @natem42
          Replying to @zeynep
          But if this is a false alarm public health will have burned a lot of credibility when already strained. We may be at the ping where there is no such thing as erring on the side of caution.
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        1. Bijan Salehizadeh‏ @bijans 28 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Entirely agree. What makes us think the US government, now two years in, can logistically or politically handle incoming border crossing mass PCR and mandatory hotel quarantining? We don’t have the will nor the ability to scale or take on the political blowback. So theater it is.

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        1. Erin McJ‏ @normdeviate 28 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @clancynewyork

          I’m confused about something — given how patchy our genomic surveillance is, how do we know that this is an early warning?

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        2. Clare Hendry‏ @Clare_Hendry 28 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          The immediate knee jerk travel bans have decimated what was left of the South African tourism and film industries. Many thousands of jobs lost. We do not have the resources to provide a safety net like developed nations. Surely there's a moral argument here too?

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        3. Richard Steere‏ @rmsteere 28 Nov 2021
          Replying to @Clare_Hendry @zeynep

          Sacrifice lives at the alter of profit?

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