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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 24 Nov 2021

      Stephen Goldstein Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      I have not figured out how to monetize it, but I may not be as smart as @zeynep, who seems to have almost everything figured out.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1462800937265897484 …

      Stephen Goldstein added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @WryWryWry3
      The lucrative path in her field would have been to join the in-crowd which let Peter you-know-who lead the whole field by the nose into very troubling corner—the damaging effects of which are yet to play, likely for decades—for almost two years despite obvious, visible problems.
      6 replies 5 retweets 56 likes
    2. Health Nerd‏Verified account @GidMK 24 Nov 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @zeynep

      I'm very confused, even the more successful virologists aren't exactly rolling in it. There are much easier ways to make money!

      6 replies 0 retweets 27 likes
    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Nov 2021
      Replying to @GidMK @stgoldst

      If you’re going to wave around credentials, you need a much better track record. Still, I appreciate that Stephen is also a junior person who’s outspoken and not always with requisite support. I hope he’d get the obvious point. Sticking your neck out isn’t a straight money play.

      4 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
    4. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 24 Nov 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @GidMK

      Indeed I understand the intended point, I simply disagree. I think Alina has played a very harmful role and I don’t think it’s brave to write a book based on conjecture. It’s certainly wrong that the alternative path is lucrative though.

      18 replies 4 retweets 32 likes
    5. Stephen Goldstein‏ @stgoldst 24 Nov 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @zeynep @GidMK

      Alina has a much bigger profile than I do and if she makes $20 off her book that’ll be $20 more than I’ve made off this entire saga. Which is all fine. I’m not involved in this for those things. I could tweet incessantly if I were. But I don’t agree theres bravery.

      3 replies 1 retweet 19 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Nov 2021
      Replying to @stgoldst @GidMK

      I think both of you have strong opinions, and I’d argue neither of you is protected by senior people—tbh I’d argue they should be out there, not you—or out for the money. Strong disagreement with anyone aside, I’m recognizing that conviction exists. And I respect it. That’s all.

      8:05 PM - 24 Nov 2021
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        2. Stephanie N. Langel‏ @stephanielangel 25 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @stgoldst @GidMK

          Having followed these threads over the last couple of days, I think the biggest thing I disagree with is that because Alina is a postdoc, she should be spared from critiques on her point of view, esp considering her book/recent work is of her own, not her advisors.

          3 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
        3. Stephanie N. Langel‏ @stephanielangel 25 Nov 2021
          Replying to @stephanielangel @zeynep and

          I recently started on my independent path after my post doc and I fully expect to be critiqued on my work bc it is just that- my work. The difference is the # of ppl critiquing Alina is larger bc her audience is larger, all of this she has invited (Ex: wanting her tweets boosted)

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
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