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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 23 Nov 2021

      Existential crisis? I work on human cytomegalovirus 🤣… As to your book, “Viral,” it rightly got panned by critics but maybe your Twitter followers will rescue some revenue? 🤡 https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1462890416706101249 …pic.twitter.com/vnH0D6KmXh

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Nov 2021
      Replying to @macroliter

      You’re quoting me but absolutely ignoring my question. Amazing. How about focus this energy to get EcoHealth to release the data it should have years ago? Or mention that Calisher, Paliser and Roizman—as eminent as it gets—have said much harsher things than Chan? Or even Baric?

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Nov 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @macroliter

      The pile-on a single postdoc when there are so many actual, important and substantial questions… It would almost be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.

      7 replies 6 retweets 84 likes
    4. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 23 Nov 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      What’s pathetic is the tongue-in-cheek implication that EcoHealth is somehow responsible for the pandemic as the DRASTIC et al goal posts keep moving from Mojiang cave to what now, furtive samples from Laos? With an FCS stitched in at BSL2? Just asking questions? Give me a break.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Nov 2021
      Replying to @macroliter

      Very straightforward. Why haven’t they released all their data, and why have so many of their statements contradicted their previous ones—or known facts as unearthed? You tell me why. “We prepare for pandemics but we’re going to sit on our data in the middle of an actual one”?

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    6. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 23 Nov 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      I don’t speak for EcoHealth. So I’m the wrong person to ask. But I find it bizarre that we are focusing so intently on ever more obscure revelations about EcoHealth or what Rand Paul claims about Fauci, etc., while the evidence increasingly underscores natural emergence.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Nov 2021
      Replying to @macroliter

      In the 80s, the Turkish government insisted there was “no evidence” that there was torture in jails. You can’t talk about “the evidence” when evidence is so profoundly censored. We’re talking about EcoHealth because they won’t even give us what little evidence might be available.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Nov 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @macroliter

      It would be helpful if the field tried to focus on actual evidence, what little might be available. Or how “frozen food chain” ended up being rated as “more likely” than *anything* lab related by experts. Or why the Lancet and other case reports don’t match WHO report whatsoever.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Nov 2021
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          So anyone insisting on what we *do* know should try to define the scope. You will immediately hit EcoHealth as an inexplicable obstruction. This is taxpayer-funded research. It’s a pandemic. Why don’t we have access to it? At least I get what the Chinese government is doing.

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        3. Jeremy Kamil‏ @macroliter 23 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          The substance of what you’re holding on to here is Tucker Carlson’s playbook. Be indignant as you wish. But I won’t confuse absence of evidence with actual evidence.

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        2. Ryan McNamara  🧬‏ @Ryan_Mac_Phd 23 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @macroliter

          The evidence is being published on an ongoing basis, and is increasingly pointing one direction. Multiple, independent groups who have nothing do to with the WHO or EHA. This is just getting absurd.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Nov 2021
          Replying to @Ryan_Mac_Phd @macroliter

          Most everything in Worobey’s paper had been uncovered *months ago* by the so-called internet sleuths. It was known but ignored, as usual. Also, what’s your explanation for why we don’t have access to EcoHealth’s data and their contradictory statements?

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