This is a key point in an excellent thread. The safety impacts of E2EE are very different on apps that map onto existing social graphs (like phone numbers) and those that introduce strangers and allow for searching real identities.https://twitter.com/elegant_wallaby/status/1462845345319161860 …
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Facebook can read your messages anyway. E2E is message transport security. I don’t know why people deliberately mislead here.
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No it is not.
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Or, it's a basic ad hominem argument.
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Similar to guilt by association.
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Surely there must be a rate of inappropriate argument/fact use at which it becomes prudent to be very very skeptical of that a/f, and if so, “think of the children” must be high on the relevant leaderboard.
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But that said, if the 90% lower efficacy number is legit, you’d still have to listen in this case. :/
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Ah, like
@popehat's odd take on the "falsely shouting fire in a crowded theater" argument – that because it's almost always used wrongly, anyone who uses it is wrong?* (* – even laughably wrong) https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1462852187474833410 …pic.twitter.com/DyjCe3q23e
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This drives all of "cancel culture" e.g. "don't go around saying [true thing], because that will just give intellectual cover to [Bad People]."
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On the other hand, this particular argument actually *is* being used to some extent as a pressure tactic to delay the rollout of end-to-end encryption. There can be both good and disingenuous motivations for a feature. https://about.fb.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Facebook-Response-to-Barr-Patel-Dutton-Wolf-.pdf …
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My thought on David’s argument is that “encrypted social networks have a unique abuse problem, they need anti-abuse features that other data doesn’t” seems reasonable. But here on Earth 1, companies are deploying those anti-abuse features into private photo backup services.
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