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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Flo Débarre‏ @flodebarre 18 Nov 2021

      Flo Débarre Retweeted Francisco de Asis

      FYI @MichaelWorobey @carlzimmer @benjmueller and others writing on the early cases: @franciscodeasis had found out about Chen a long time ago and it's a bit uncool not to credit him @acritschristophhttps://twitter.com/franciscodeasis/status/1397227238764990469 …

      Flo Débarre added,

      Francisco de Asis @franciscodeasis
      Chen XX, Wuchang accountant and nephew of a doctor, 41 yrs old male (41M1), is not 1st known onset date on 08-Dec-19 as China-WHO report states (annex p. 117). His onset date was 16-Dec-19 according to 2 Wuhan Central Hospital doctors (Prof. Zhao Su & less-known hero Dr. Ai Fen) pic.twitter.com/7KhzlExUuz
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Nov 2021
      Replying to @flodebarre @MichaelWorobey and

      The “internet sleuths”, long dismissed, have uncovered significant amount of discrepancies, errors, corrections and actually relevant information about the virus origins and before anyone else. But those either get ignored, or begrudgingly accepted when denial becomes impossible.

      3 replies 29 retweets 110 likes
    3. Flo Débarre‏ @flodebarre 19 Nov 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @MichaelWorobey and

      Flo Débarre Retweeted Amy Maxmen, PhD

      Please help me make @amymaxmen read my first tweet and realise that they had already found out about the WHO first known case date being wronghttps://twitter.com/amymaxmen/status/1461678813566455821?s=20 …

      Flo Débarre added,

      Amy Maxmen, PhDVerified account @amymaxmen
      SMH at how lab-leak evangelists quoted in NYT use this finding to take aim at the WHO instead of acknowledge how the *news* here disfavors their pet hypothesis & supports zoonotic origins.
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      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Alex Crits-Christoph‏ @acritschristoph 19 Nov 2021
      Replying to @flodebarre @zeynep and

      Perhaps you mean to take issue with the WashPo reporters who didn't seem to acknowledge anyone when they reported the above information back in July! It's been public knowledge since, but the new info here was *why* the discrepancy, which Mike identified.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/covid-wuhan-outbreak-who/2021/07/15/51e7e8a6-e2c6-11eb-88c5-4fd6382c47cb_story.html …

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    5. Flo Débarre‏ @flodebarre 19 Nov 2021
      Replying to @acritschristoph @zeynep and

      What I meant to say is: there is some good work being done on all sides, and more progress would be made if people cooperated. Have you seen the amazing work by @babarlelephant and others on the Huanan market?http://babarlelephant.free-hoster.net/visiting-the-wuhan-seafood-market/ …

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Flo Débarre‏ @flodebarre 19 Nov 2021
      Replying to @flodebarre @acritschristoph and

      Flo Débarre Retweeted Brian Reed

      Now regarding the "why", the source cited in the Science paper (ref. 12) had been identified in August already by @Drinkwater5Reed and othershttps://twitter.com/Drinkwater5Reed/status/1428772304792834049?s=20 …

      Flo Débarre added,

      Brian Reed @Drinkwater5Reed
      2/ DRASTIC has found extensive details of this case. Notably one of the more independent Chinese investigative journalism sites named “The Paper” interviewed Chen and his family and shared his medical reports. pic.twitter.com/5cIg6JBxpP
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Nov 2021
      Replying to @flodebarre @acritschristoph and

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Flo Débarre

      Agree with this below. There has been pretty extensive valuable research by “sleuths” that keeps getting dismissed, unfairly. It’s also clear that we do not have anywhere near needed clarity or consistent information on *known* first cases, let alone actual first cases.https://twitter.com/flodebarre/status/1461747749599297548 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Flo Débarre @flodebarre
      Replying to @acritschristoph @zeynep and 5 others
      What I meant to say is: there is some good work being done on all sides, and more progress would be made if people cooperated. Have you seen the amazing work by @babarlelephant and others on the Huanan market? http://babarlelephant.free-hoster.net/visiting-the-wuhan-seafood-market/ …
      9:55 AM - 19 Nov 2021
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      • Fansini 🤦🏼‍♀️💀💩 Flavio Abdenur harish seshadri Charles Rixey, MA MBA (c) António Duarte Lab leak Francisco de Asis
      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
        1. Gilles Demaneuf‏ @gdemaneuf 19 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @flodebarre and

          Worobey is just too keen to twist the facts to push his zoonotic story. We have been looking at these for months, and only by pretending against all evidence that there is no Nov 19 case, and that environmental tests at the market don’t count, can one reach his fancy conclusion.

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