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    1. Stuart Neil‏ @stuartjdneil 19 Nov 2021

      Stuart Neil Retweeted Alison Young

      Yes well what do you expect? New cases of a respiratory infection start to be noticed above the noise in a big city in flu season. In many, said infection is likely to be mild/moderate and therefore unreported The info is going it be fragmentary But the clustering is keyhttps://twitter.com/alisonannyoung/status/1461413177758035979 …

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      Alison YoungVerified account @alisonannyoung
      It’s frustrating that after all this time and so many lives lost that a lot of guesswork and assumptions are still having to be made about the earliest “known” cases of COVID-19. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/health/covid-wuhan-market-lab-leak.html?referringSource=articleShare …
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    2. Flo Débarre‏ @flodebarre 19 Nov 2021
      Replying to @stuartjdneil

      You are giving the precise arguments why it is likely that the first known cases are not the very first cases...

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    3. Stuart Neil‏ @stuartjdneil 19 Nov 2021
      Replying to @flodebarre

      Yes. We all know that. Having established that the earliest known case and the initial clustering of know infections implicate the market, the question then is huanan the first place it made landfall in Wuhan?

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Nov 2021
      Replying to @stuartjdneil @flodebarre

      That is actually a very good question, but not how it is being presented. Honestly, it's just embarrassing now. The WHO report on initial cases was hopelessly muddled (long-known) and Chinese scientists long ago credibly concluded market was likely amplification, not source.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @stuartjdneil @flodebarre

          By itself, this doesn't even implicate any origin theory but people are turning themselves into pretzels to try to pretend it does, and ultimately, that does significant damage in my opinion, because historical record eventually gets corrected especially regarding obvious facts.

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