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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Football Bat

      This is so stupid. Annual boosters would be no big deal. That said, many other vaccines are a three-dose primary series. Some then have finite number of boosters—one or two, sometimes years later. The pandemic brought many hardships. Oh-noes-a-three-dose-primary-series isn't one.https://twitter.com/day_diff/status/1460979166816395276 …

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      Football Bat @day_diff
      "Then ZOWIE just wait and see what the 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th boosters do. We might let you get down to 2 masks for your daily alotted 5 minutes of outdoors time by 2032!" https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1460976854811262984 …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Here's the deal. The "booster" is turning out to be more than a boost for waning efficacy. It's both true that we should prioritize this globally—health-care workers and high-risk people everywhere first—and that it's a no-brainer at the individual level.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1460976854811262984 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @Atul_Gawande
      Indeed. @dylanhmorris keeps pointing out the third shot improves antibody quality, not just quantity, and the efficacy doesn't just get "restored" to before, it sometimes exceeds anything seen before. And there are many other vaccines with three-dose primary series.
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Santa Monica

      I'm very sympathetic to the notion that we haven't been where we need to be with communication around many issues. But adjusting dosing schedule once data comes in from large-scale real-life implementation is routine. It's called Phase IV trials.https://twitter.com/SantaMonicaBorn/status/1460984114853474306 …

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      Santa Monica @SantaMonicaBorn
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      Wasn’t public’s expectations. No surprise there’s push back and further erosion of trust in medical establishment.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Chise  🧬 🧫 🦠 💉

      Yep. A lot of childhood vaccines are three-dose primary series. Some have a few boosters, but most of them do not need annual ones. We don't yet know where this one will end up, but this seems like the least of our problems.https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1460985569668915200 …

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      Chise  🧬 🧫 🦠 💉 @sailorrooscout
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      A lot of people seem to forget the following pic.twitter.com/cIcjFlJr3u
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        1. Firas Durri‏ @firasd 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Tetanus is something where people in both developed/developing countries are familiar with the idea of getting that shot as a booster if you got a cut from something that could cause it

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        1. Filmnoir‏ @Filmnoir11 17 Nov 2021
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          The major issue here, however, is how this impacts vaccine mandates and access limited to those who are fully-vaccinated. Does this mean that those whom are only just fully vaccinated now won't have societal access?

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        2. Brian Wasik‏ @BrianRWasik 17 Nov 2021
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          Brian Wasik Retweeted Andrew L. Croxford

          'every 6mo' just doesn't comport with what we know about immunity. The immune response to each dose isn't likely to be linear in both effect and decay. Especially in absence of sig antigenic change. Andrew made a nice little graphic to explain.https://twitter.com/andrew_croxford/status/1435914603364560899?t=4CKXRs46wofGRCssWULvUA&s=19 …

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          Andrew L. Croxford @andrew_croxford
          Replying to @AlistairHaimes @PaulNuki
          It likely will but the fading will not be always directly proportional to the previous dose. The intervals (orange) between fading protection may get longer, thus reducing need for ‘actual’ boosters on an annual basis. I’ve used felt-tips for Alistair. 😝 pic.twitter.com/0siMqJvNkS
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        1. hirad.eth‏ @theHirad 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          The combination of “we don’t know a lot about these shots” and “you must take these shots” is the pill people don’t want to swallow. This would be fine if it was voluntary.

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        2. ___‏ @trombosit 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          you did great work with respect to hammering the airborne nature of this virus but you were also wrong when advocating the lifting of mask mandates for vaccinated or doubting the need for boosters. everyone gets confused with the messaging because it was so wrong so many times.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @trombosit

          I don't mind being wrong, but those aren't my positions. Mandates below. On boosters: being concerned about what this means for vaccine equity is still very true, and on their need, yes, asking for data was the right move, imo, especially given equity.https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/14/opinion/coronavirus-masks-vaccines.html …

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        1. Aleema‏ @luushanah 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I suppose there's one thing (aside from the propaganda/disinformation) now everyone knows: most of the population was direly clueless about vaccines and is only now discovering they should have gotten boosters all along...

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        1. Dampscribbler‏ @dampscribbler 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Hopefully people know they should be getting their tetanus booster at least every tenth year.

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        2. Anthony DiPierro‏ @DipierroAnthony 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          It’s always safe to say “we don’t know,” but we really do know quite a bit about how coronaviruses in general, respiratory diseases in general, and this virus in particular, work, as well as how this vaccine and others like it, work.

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        3. Anthony DiPierro‏ @DipierroAnthony 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @DipierroAnthony @zeynep

          We also know what Moderna is planning and desires with its mRNA vaccines.

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