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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Football Bat

      This is so stupid. Annual boosters would be no big deal. That said, many other vaccines are a three-dose primary series. Some then have finite number of boosters—one or two, sometimes years later. The pandemic brought many hardships. Oh-noes-a-three-dose-primary-series isn't one.https://twitter.com/day_diff/status/1460979166816395276 …

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      Football Bat @day_diff
      "Then ZOWIE just wait and see what the 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th boosters do. We might let you get down to 2 masks for your daily alotted 5 minutes of outdoors time by 2032!" https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1460976854811262984 …
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

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      Here's the deal. The "booster" is turning out to be more than a boost for waning efficacy. It's both true that we should prioritize this globally—health-care workers and high-risk people everywhere first—and that it's a no-brainer at the individual level.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1460976854811262984 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      Replying to @Atul_Gawande
      Indeed. @dylanhmorris keeps pointing out the third shot improves antibody quality, not just quantity, and the efficacy doesn't just get "restored" to before, it sometimes exceeds anything seen before. And there are many other vaccines with three-dose primary series.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Santa Monica

      I'm very sympathetic to the notion that we haven't been where we need to be with communication around many issues. But adjusting dosing schedule once data comes in from large-scale real-life implementation is routine. It's called Phase IV trials.https://twitter.com/SantaMonicaBorn/status/1460984114853474306 …

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      Santa Monica @SantaMonicaBorn
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      Wasn’t public’s expectations. No surprise there’s push back and further erosion of trust in medical establishment.
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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Chise  🧬 🧫 🦠 💉

          Yep. A lot of childhood vaccines are three-dose primary series. Some have a few boosters, but most of them do not need annual ones. We don't yet know where this one will end up, but this seems like the least of our problems.https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1460985569668915200 …

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          Chise  🧬 🧫 🦠 💉 @sailorrooscout
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          A lot of people seem to forget the following pic.twitter.com/cIcjFlJr3u
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        1. Mo Perry‏ @MoMoPerry 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Is data for safety & efficacy of boosters publicly available? Do we know anything concrete about the demographics for whom they provide robust benefit in terms of preventing severe disease & death? Elderly/underlying conditions seems like a no-brainer. Unsure bout healthy/young.

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        2. Cal‏ @calw313 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          I understand the backlash when health officials and pharma execs are speculating about yearly boosters. The side effects of the covid shots are definitely worse than the flu shot.

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        3. Jeremy‏ @11JustBreathe11 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @calw313 @zeynep

          Do you think Moderna et. al. will attempt to better formulate their vaccine to avoid side effects, or do you think they'll just say, "oh well, this is it, we'll never change and we'll never look for a way to make this vaccine more generally tolerable?" I would think the latter

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        2. Lorenzo Casaccia‏ @lorenzocasaccia 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          What you are fundamentally missing is that the “failures of communication” have been accompanied by a level of pressure, coercion and politicized virtue signaling that defies comprehension and makes sarcasm quite warranted.

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        3. Lorenzo Casaccia‏ @lorenzocasaccia 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @lorenzocasaccia @zeynep

          By all means, those at risk should seriously consider boosters and those should be available, and same for developing countries. And that should be it. No more case counting nor moral panic, and even less so a “us vs them” rethoric

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        2. The Order of the Pug‏ @Denim_OnDenim 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          A. The public's expectation was this wouldn't be the case and they came to that expectation based upon the advise of experts.... B. Now experts are telling them their beliefs are silly .... C. I wonder why people lose trust in the process and the experts.

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        3. Jeremy‏ @11JustBreathe11 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @Denim_OnDenim @zeynep

          Consider it another way: 1) Experts derive their understanding using the best available evidence 2) New evidence emerges 3) Experts revise their understanding 4) Public flips its shit because they want one answer, only, forever

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        2. Yasdnil 2‏ @Yasdnil2 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Agreed. But that is not how anything was presented. The media and government have both spoken in absolutes at all times until absolutely proven wrong in each step of this process. What we needed (still) was willingness to communicate reality rather than adherence to narrative.

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        3. Yasdnil 2‏ @Yasdnil2 17 Nov 2021
          Replying to @Yasdnil2 @zeynep

          It has been easier to find realistic dependable sources and actual data here on Twitter. Almost none of that has made it into mainstream communication so that is not what most people have access to to become informed with.

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