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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Football Bat

    This is so stupid. Annual boosters would be no big deal. That said, many other vaccines are a three-dose primary series. Some then have finite number of boosters—one or two, sometimes years later. The pandemic brought many hardships. Oh-noes-a-three-dose-primary-series isn't one.https://twitter.com/day_diff/status/1460979166816395276 …

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    Football Bat @day_diff
    "Then ZOWIE just wait and see what the 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th boosters do. We might let you get down to 2 masks for your daily alotted 5 minutes of outdoors time by 2032!" https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1460976854811262984 …
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

        Here's the deal. The "booster" is turning out to be more than a boost for waning efficacy. It's both true that we should prioritize this globally—health-care workers and high-risk people everywhere first—and that it's a no-brainer at the individual level.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1460976854811262984 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
        Replying to @Atul_Gawande
        Indeed. @dylanhmorris keeps pointing out the third shot improves antibody quality, not just quantity, and the efficacy doesn't just get "restored" to before, it sometimes exceeds anything seen before. And there are many other vaccines with three-dose primary series.
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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Santa Monica

        I'm very sympathetic to the notion that we haven't been where we need to be with communication around many issues. But adjusting dosing schedule once data comes in from large-scale real-life implementation is routine. It's called Phase IV trials.https://twitter.com/SantaMonicaBorn/status/1460984114853474306 …

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        Santa Monica @SantaMonicaBorn
        Replying to @zeynep
        Wasn’t public’s expectations. No surprise there’s push back and further erosion of trust in medical establishment.
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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Nov 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Chise  🧬 🧫 🦠 💉

        Yep. A lot of childhood vaccines are three-dose primary series. Some have a few boosters, but most of them do not need annual ones. We don't yet know where this one will end up, but this seems like the least of our problems.https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1460985569668915200 …

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        Chise  🧬 🧫 🦠 💉 @sailorrooscout
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        A lot of people seem to forget the following pic.twitter.com/cIcjFlJr3u
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      1. Nicholas Weaver‏Verified account @ncweaver 17 Nov 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        The one that interests me is Moderna’s mRNA flu vaccine, which includes a COVID booster as welL I’m already getting jabbed once a year against influenza, so why not?

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      2. George.btc Peacock‏ @Peacockg 17 Nov 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        I think of something like the tetanus shot. Generally, three doses, no? Followed by one every 10 years or so.

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      3. Christina D‏ @akasha111182 17 Nov 2021
        Replying to @Peacockg @zeynep

        HPV vaccine for older adults, too. It’s totally fine.

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      2. Thomas Attila Lewis‏ @tomdog 17 Nov 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        I don’t think it’s the “3” that’s the problem, it’s that it’s an infinite number and the booster would be more than annual since efficacy drops off within months. It’s fine as a stopgap on our way to better vaccines.

        3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Alagai  🇺🇸‏ @Alagai 17 Nov 2021
        Replying to @tomdog @zeynep

        What are you talking about? There's no determination that it's "infinite" or even annual. Read her whole thread willya. It may be that it takes 3 shots to be completely immunized (that applies to other vaccinations already). And if it needs periodic boosters so what.

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      2. Santa Monica‏ @SantaMonicaBorn 17 Nov 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        Wasn’t public’s expectations. No surprise there’s push back and further erosion of trust in medical establishment.

        4 replies 0 retweets 26 likes
      3. Richard Hansen  🌹‏ @RichardHansen 17 Nov 2021
        Replying to @SantaMonicaBorn @zeynep

        Part of being a functioning adult is recognizing and accepting that reality doesn’t often meet our expectations.

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