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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Nov 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bob Bird

      I keep seeing this claim. FWIW, Israel has fully-vaccinated only about 63% of its population—somewhat similar to the United States. It was never highly-vaccinated, let alone "universal vaccination." There are these sticky ideas that seem to take hold, and nobody checks on later.https://twitter.com/rbird8/status/1456622674554376195 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Bob Bird @rbird8
      Replying to @zeynep @CharlesMBlow
      Now do Israel. Nearly universal vaccination, still ravaged by delta.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Nov 2021

      Yes, Delta can increase breakthroughs among the vaccinated. Yes, even a small amount of unvaccinated can be large enough to spike cases, let alone %35 of the population, and all surges now are disproportionately among the unvaccinated. No, Israel isn't "highly-vaccinated".

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Nov 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Artyom Korenevsky

          Also, at the moment, Sweden has more vaccinated people than Israel (71% at least one dose; 67 two). People seem to get stuck around certain talking points, and then few check on it later.https://twitter.com/ArtKorenevsky/status/1456704317390458886 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Artyom Korenevsky @ArtKorenevsky
          Israel has been the ideological equivalent of Sweden for a while now to fill in whatever narratives people prefer. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1456624557633282049 …
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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Nov 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Vincent Rajkumar

          Like you want to get impressed and probe strategies? How about South Korea which was really unlucky early on, had a terrible and large outbreak, and, with great effort, managed to beat it all the way back and hold the line till vaccination (now at 75%).https://twitter.com/VincentRK/status/1456709897874251779?s=20 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Vincent RajkumarVerified account @VincentRK
          South Korea followed the textbook principles of epidemiology. Kept deaths 40 times lower all the way till 75% of population fully vaccinated. This is success. pic.twitter.com/1pZrXSi3c0
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        2. Stefan Schubert‏ @StefanFSchubert 5 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Maybe they conflate that Israel was quickly vaccinated with it being highly vaccinated. I agree with your analysis.

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        3. illinidiva‏ @illinidiva12 5 Nov 2021
          Replying to @StefanFSchubert @zeynep

          Israel is highly vaccinated and there are lots of sticks associated with not getting a vaccine - aka vaccine passports. The issue is that Israel also has lots of kids under 12.

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        1. 425lb AUM‏ @DeadLiftCapital 5 Nov 2021
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          Also, the last data in Israel still showed that double vax was 90%+ effective at protecting all age groups from hospitalization, likely understated given the prior infections in the unvaxxed cohorts. I don't get these gotchas.

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        1. Tanja Maier‏ @tanjamaier17 5 Nov 2021
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          I think people get mixed up bc Israel has already boosted so many of those vaccinated: https://www.google.at/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-study-covid-booster-shots-92-effective-at-preventing-serious-illness/amp/ …pic.twitter.com/7w0TIc7WWR

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        1. Rick Kennedy‏ @rkken2902 5 Nov 2021
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          Further, I'm betting that Israel sees the same that we saw in KY. The hospitalizations are considerably more focused in the unvax population. And the avg age of the unvaxxed was 50. The avg age of the vaxxed was 80. Vaccines working great.

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        1. Kaitain Jones‏ @kaitainjones 5 Nov 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Something I’ve been wondering: how much data do we have on variation in the immune response generated by the two jab regime? Is there occasional human error that leads to a suboptimal immune boost, and if so, how does this correlate with breakthrough infections?

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        1. Eli Perencevich, MD MS 🧼  😷‏Verified account @eliowa 5 Nov 2021
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          And children. Largest group infected here is under 17yo and then their parents

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