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    1. Eric Topol‏Verified account @EricTopol 29 Oct 2021

      Disconcerting to see many countries in Europe starting to heat up again, possibly reflecting, at least in part, some waning of vaccine effectivenesspic.twitter.com/Pf3ZGcW0Qg

      199 replies 411 retweets 1,188 likes
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    2. James Surowiecki‏Verified account @JamesSurowiecki 29 Oct 2021
      Replying to @EricTopol

      All European case numbers should include information about what percentage of new cases are in kids. Without that info, there's no way to tell whether the rise in cases actually reflects waning vax effectiveness, or is mainly driven by the unvaxxed.

      27 replies 17 retweets 329 likes
    3. Eric Topol‏Verified account @EricTopol 29 Oct 2021
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki

      Good point, James. Many possible factors besides waning including kids, less mitigation, the residual unvaccinated population, etc.

      6 replies 3 retweets 80 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Oct 2021
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      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Vincent Glad

      Waning can, no doubt, be a factor. It would presumably be reflected most in the older folks—who got vaccinated first. The below looks like unvaccinated kids and youngsters who are less vaccinated *and* socialize a lot more (clubs!) are driving most cases.https://twitter.com/vincentglad/status/1454142377552195585 …

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      Vincent GladVerified account @vincentglad
      Replying to @JamesSurowiecki @EricTopol
      - Denmark - Ireland - Germany (in light blue, the proportion in the population, in dark blue, the proportion in the number of cases yesterday) - Switzerland pic.twitter.com/W7emwqptyy
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Oct 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @EricTopol @JamesSurowiecki

      Equal waning among age groups might be mitigated by dramatically different social behaviors—maybe older adults still more cautious? Or maybe have already gotten boosters?

      12:41 PM - 29 Oct 2021
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        1. Allen Berman‏ @berman_allen 29 Oct 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @EricTopol @JamesSurowiecki

          Personal behavior is always a significant numerical unknown factor in "by age groups" and vaxxed versus unvaxxed; in real world vaxx versus unvaxxed, it clearly makes vaxx look somewhat better than it is--we just don't know the "magnitude" of the efficacy "overestimation"

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