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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted The Seeker

      Also, this from the unearthed grant: shouldn't these"180 unique SARSr-CoVs" from bats EcoHealth says they collected be shared with the scientific community already? (As far as I know, they have not been disclosed yet).https://twitter.com/TheSeeker268/status/1440337832472576014 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      The Seeker @TheSeeker268
      Money quote #3 & #4: >180 unique SARSr-CoVs It defies any logic that Daszak still hasn't shared them with the scientific community. This does a lot more than raise questions about Daszak's integrity. pic.twitter.com/oD6TZI6tSN
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Marcus Weinman

      Here we go: maybe we could confirm that, indeed, there are no undisclosed sequences left. (I'll email and ask tomorrow). The numbers in the grant and here aren't an exact match: the organization itself clarifying all this would be good.https://twitter.com/Homozygoat_/status/1451380954249977858 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Marcus Weinman @Homozygoat_
      Replying to @zeynep
      He disclosed them right here...? https://twitter.com/PeterDaszak/status/1397346763103670282 … https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-17687-3#MOESM1 …
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      Dr. Ralph Baric, among leading coronavirus scientists, much to lose, honestly:"You can engineer a virus without leaving any trace." @Voxdotcom, OCTOBER 2021, citing a single commentary from way back, March 2020, *twice* to assert what "we know for sure". Why people lose trust.pic.twitter.com/RNILY9RbiL

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      I don't think we can assign likelihood to the options tbh—a bit like dividing by zero, given lack of evidence or cover-up—but some do say "I think this is more likely". Fine. But "we know for sure"? There is a Turkish saying for this: more of a royalist than even the king.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Vincent Parbelle  🍓 🍓 🍓

      For the record! (Etymology is almost certainly from French to Turkish, as there was a period of massive French influence on the language). Also, French has some of the best quips about monarchies!https://twitter.com/VParbelle/status/1452331597630517253 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Vincent Parbelle  🍓 🍓 🍓 @VParbelle
      Replying to @zeynep
      Also a French saying: Être plus royaliste que le roi 😉
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      After the Iraq War debacle, trust in media in the US dropped ~10-15% and never recovered. Good journalism isn't stenography. The way not to give fuel to misinformation and, yes, even absurd and terrible theories is to establish trust is through honest but *challenging* reporting.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jamie Metzl

      Worth reading. The first WHO investigation on COVID origins ended up rating *frozen food imports* from elsewhere as *more likely* than even a lab accident, let alone anything else. A repeat of the same embarrassing debacle isn't in the public interest.https://twitter.com/JamieMetzl/status/1452981444679249922 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jamie MetzlVerified account @JamieMetzl
      .@WHO SAGO is an important step toward better understanding the origin of #COVID19 & future pandemics, but the list of nominees requires some essential changes to make this possible. Here's our letter sent to @DrTedros @ @mvankerkhove earlier today. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355585072_Proposed_changes_to_the_composition_of_the_SAGO_committee?channel=doi&linkId=61779f59eef53e51e1ebdf46&showFulltext=true …
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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2021

      Two issues: what sparked this pandemic? May be unknowable, given the cover-up, but we can still learn to try to address *all* the possibilities. Second is about *us*. How can "frozen food" end up in a WHO report as a realistic option like that, for ex? Where's the deep coverage?

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    9. Saeed Khan‏ @saeedwkhan 26 Oct 2021
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      WHO and public health "experts" have given anti-vaxxers, doubters and conspiracy theorists all the ammo they need to confirm their beliefs. Believe the scientists was the mantra. And then we read about "frozen food". Can any rational person believe that?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2021
      Replying to @saeedwkhan

      Not all experts, in fairness, and WHO has structural limits. Tough position. That said, on multiple issues, too many people circling the wagons way past a reasonable point has undermined the credibility of some experts/institutions—masks, airborne transmission, this...

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Oct 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @saeedwkhan

      It's not the being wrong/defensive for a time, but the persistence of stubbornness and attempting to shut down the obvious issues that causes the real damage, I think: once people observe this for obvious issues then they lose trust for things that are much more complex/opaque.

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