For the sake of avoiding misunderstandings, I think the article would be much better if it states that you personally believe that an engineered origin is not possible, But the scientific data available cannot tell us if SARS2 was genetically engineered.
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Replying to @Ayjchan @fallguy9639 and
I think "cannot tell us" is the wrong framework here. There are lots of things we'd expect to observe if SARS2 was genetically engineered and we have not observed any of them.
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc @Ayjchan and
What are those things? Curious that you seem to be more certain than Ralph Baric on this.
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Alina Chan Retweeted Will Bradshaw
But also, even the scientist
@willbradbio whose work is described extensively in this@voxdotcom story of whether Sars2 was genetically engineered, says that his work is not applicable to this question. Because we don’t have the tools to discern GE in Sars2.https://twitter.com/willbradbio/status/1452391367611756544 …Alina Chan added,
Will Bradshaw @willbradbioI want to emphasise a distinction I think I didn't make clear enough before: Genetic engineering DETECTION = "Was this engineered?" Genetic engineering ATTRIBUTION = "Who engineered this?" You can't do GEA until you've done GED. Which is why GEA can't help us with COVID rn.Show this thread3 replies 2 retweets 29 likes -
I absolutely agree that genetic engineering attribution work doesn't tell us anything about Covid-19. This story is about genetic engineering attribution work, and I wanted to make it clear it *wasn't* about Covid
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc @zeynep and
If you think the GEA work is unrelated to Covid and
@willbradbio also thinks the GEA is unrelated to Covid… then why did the article start with “SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, wasn’t intentionally created in a lab” and spend so much time talking about#OriginOfCovid1 reply 1 retweet 24 likes -
So, here's what happened: I wrote a long article about something I care a lot about, progress on genetic engineering attribution. Then I realized people would be most interested in whether this is applicable to Covid, which it's not.
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc @Ayjchan and
So I added a paragraph up front intended to communicate: what you're about to read about is really important for potential future genetically engineered virus releases, but it's not useful for the current pandemic, which isn't a genetically engineered virus release.
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc @Ayjchan and
I think you're reading this as, like, I decided to use a bunch of genetic engineering attribution research to argue the thesis "if Covid had been engineered, we'd be able to tell with genetic engineering attribution"?? And that is absolutely zero percent my takeaway here.
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Replying to @KelseyTuoc @Ayjchan and
Two examples below. Ralph Baric, leading coronavirologist and David Baltimore, Nobel Laureate. They clearly say that you cannot resolve genetic engineering by looking at the genome alone—need to know what the lab actually did, i.e. forensic investigation. That's the uncertainty.pic.twitter.com/y3x8Uryiyx
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Is it possible we may never know because a real investigation was not allowed and the cover-up has been extensive? Sure. Still, attempts to gaslight the public on other matters backfired already so "we don't know and here's why we don't know for sure" seems straightforward to me.
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Replying to @zeynep @KelseyTuoc and
Curious in which matters you see attempts to gaslight the public. To be clear, I agree that there have been such attempts. But wondering which ones you think are clearly gaslighting.
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