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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      We know from freedom-of-information requests (not by by traditional media for the most part) that EcoHealth's President Peter Daszak was instrumental in coordinating the high-profile "scientist response" to the question of origins, and was in both WHO team and Lancet task force.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      I hope all this is a lesson on the downfalls of credulity and group-think—even among smart people. People who *correctly* suggested that the required transparency, investigation and accountability were deeply lacking were branded as conspiracy theorists. That's how trust is lost.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      How German virologist Alexander Kekulé describes his reaction to the unearthing of the (unfunded!) grant application by EcoHealth/WIV. (Also note he later points out why/how the way forward is the same: better outbreak surveillance and lab oversight). https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Kekule-sieht-neue-Hinweise-fuer-Laborunfall-article22875216.html …pic.twitter.com/1NOpLSAYS9

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      More. EcoHealth had denied experiments with MERS but a missing NIH report Intercept JUST got says “We constructed the full-length infectious clone of MERS-CoV, and replaced the RBD of MERS-CoV with the RBDs of various strains of HKU4-related coronaviruses" https://theintercept.com/2021/10/21/virus-mers-wuhan-experiments/ …pic.twitter.com/SmjvceQplY

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      So, EcoHealth submitted the fourth year report in 2018 and then, inexplicably, updated it in 2020 *only* to update the references? I've had big grants—who updates a report years later only for new references? Besides, can't even resubmit without agency approval? This is bizarre.pic.twitter.com/arVVDwL2dh

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted The Seeker

      Also, this from the unearthed grant: shouldn't these"180 unique SARSr-CoVs" from bats EcoHealth says they collected be shared with the scientific community already? (As far as I know, they have not been disclosed yet).https://twitter.com/TheSeeker268/status/1440337832472576014 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      The Seeker @TheSeeker268
      Money quote #3 & #4: >180 unique SARSr-CoVs It defies any logic that Daszak still hasn't shared them with the scientific community. This does a lot more than raise questions about Daszak's integrity. pic.twitter.com/oD6TZI6tSN
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Marcus Weinman

      Here we go: maybe we could confirm that, indeed, there are no undisclosed sequences left. (I'll email and ask tomorrow). The numbers in the grant and here aren't an exact match: the organization itself clarifying all this would be good.https://twitter.com/Homozygoat_/status/1451380954249977858 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Marcus Weinman @Homozygoat_
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      He disclosed them right here...? https://twitter.com/PeterDaszak/status/1397346763103670282 … https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-17687-3#MOESM1 …
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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      Dr. Ralph Baric, among leading coronavirus scientists, much to lose, honestly:"You can engineer a virus without leaving any trace." @Voxdotcom, OCTOBER 2021, citing a single commentary from way back, March 2020, *twice* to assert what "we know for sure". Why people lose trust.pic.twitter.com/RNILY9RbiL

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      I don't think we can assign likelihood to the options tbh—a bit like dividing by zero, given lack of evidence or cover-up—but some do say "I think this is more likely". Fine. But "we know for sure"? There is a Turkish saying for this: more of a royalist than even the king.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Vincent Parbelle  🍓 🍓 🍓

      For the record! (Etymology is almost certainly from French to Turkish, as there was a period of massive French influence on the language). Also, French has some of the best quips about monarchies!https://twitter.com/VParbelle/status/1452331597630517253 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Vincent Parbelle  🍓 🍓 🍓 @VParbelle
      Replying to @zeynep
      Also a French saying: Être plus royaliste que le roi 😉
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Oct 2021

      Oops missing screenshot. Left, baseless certainty from Vox based on a single commentary from March 2020. Right, perhaps the world's foremost coronavirologist, honestly, on the limits to certainty. Also, much new info since March 2020. What's wrong with "we don't know for sure"?pic.twitter.com/HGWN8Kwyc9

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        2. ConfusedLonelyMiserableMagical‏ @BitneysBltch 24 Oct 2021
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          Because it feeds the conspiracy

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        1. Mean Gene Okerlund’s Comb Over‏ @1atRPE9 24 Oct 2021
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          I mean, it’s Vox so…

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        1. Velowit‏ @Velowit 25 Oct 2021
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          To be fair to Vox, there are a few opinionated virologists on Twitter who still make statements like this.

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