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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Josh Rosenberg

      This isn't like betting on horses. They wanted to take coronaviruses—like ones just found in Laos—very similar to SARS-CoV-2, but without a furin cleavage site, actively insert one, and make infectious copies—for three to six viruses per year! Like.. what?https://twitter.com/tweetjoshtweet/status/1447966629384556552 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Josh Rosenberg @tweetjoshtweet
      Replying to @zeynep
      Does this mean you're leaning toward the lab leak possibility?
      5 replies 44 retweets 312 likes
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      Anyway, my views aren't secret: I think bat coronaviruses were knocking on the door, and we didn't learn from the 2003 SARS near-miss pandemic. I also think research tail risk needs to be taken seriously, not shot down as conspiracy. Wrote essay in June:https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1408401280473632775 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      For the second time in fifty years, we're pondering whether our research activities have sparked a pandemic like they did in 1977. A deep dive from me on what we *already* know about the origins of the coronavirus—and how we can learn the right lessons. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/25/opinion/coronavirus-lab.html … pic.twitter.com/IX9jFczCZ2
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Oct 2021

      Meta-point is key players in Western countries *knew* of this grant proposal, kept it quiet while they participated in WHO investigations (ended up rating "frozen food imports" from *elsewhere* as more likely origins than anything lab related🙄), lead scientist letters, etc.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 12 Oct 2021

      (Not sarcastic). If anyone knows a good write-up defending the risk/benefit/knowledge ratio of this proposed grant, please do point me to it because this particular one is baffling to me. That DARPA (thank you, reviewer 2!) would not fund it is good to know, but not the answer.

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted The Seeker

      More. In response to an Congressional inquiry, NIH says Daszak's EcoHealth was not complying with requirements from a 2018-2019 grant to "report immediately" on potentially dangerous experiments conducted in collaboration with Wuhan Institute of Virology.https://twitter.com/TheSeeker268/status/1450938549721710593 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      The Seeker @TheSeeker268
      "EcoHealth is being notified that they have five days from today to submit to NIH any and all unpublished data from the experiments and work conducted under this award. Additional compliance efforts continue." https://twitter.com/GOPoversight/status/1450934193177903105 …
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      We know from freedom-of-information requests (not by by traditional media for the most part) that EcoHealth's President Peter Daszak was instrumental in coordinating the high-profile "scientist response" to the question of origins, and was in both WHO team and Lancet task force.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      I hope all this is a lesson on the downfalls of credulity and group-think—even among smart people. People who *correctly* suggested that the required transparency, investigation and accountability were deeply lacking were branded as conspiracy theorists. That's how trust is lost.

      12 replies 114 retweets 780 likes
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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      How German virologist Alexander Kekulé describes his reaction to the unearthing of the (unfunded!) grant application by EcoHealth/WIV. (Also note he later points out why/how the way forward is the same: better outbreak surveillance and lab oversight). https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Kekule-sieht-neue-Hinweise-fuer-Laborunfall-article22875216.html …pic.twitter.com/1NOpLSAYS9

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021

      More. EcoHealth had denied experiments with MERS but a missing NIH report Intercept JUST got says “We constructed the full-length infectious clone of MERS-CoV, and replaced the RBD of MERS-CoV with the RBDs of various strains of HKU4-related coronaviruses" https://theintercept.com/2021/10/21/virus-mers-wuhan-experiments/ …pic.twitter.com/SmjvceQplY

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    10. Antonio Regalado‏Verified account @antonioregalado 21 Oct 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      i couldnt find a copy of the missing NIH report--did intercept or anyone put it online?

      2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 21 Oct 2021
      Replying to @antonioregalado

      Not that I know of. Some more transparency would be great, including the very weird reporting timeline. (I’ve had big grants before and that’s not how things normally work.)

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        2. Timo‏ @imazined 21 Oct 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @antonioregalado

          Linked in The Intercept article https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21055989-understanding-risk-bat-coronavirus-emergence-grant-notice …https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21089573-priority-grants-for-foia-request-55058-first-look-institute-2_redacted …

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        3. Antonio Regalado‏Verified account @antonioregalado 21 Oct 2021
          Replying to @imazined @zeynep

          thanks!

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        2. ChrisLeah★ 💉 💉 💉‏ @ChrisLeahStar 21 Oct 2021
          Replying to @ChrisLeahStar @zeynep @antonioregalado

          ChrisLeah★ 💉 💉 💉 Retweeted Richard H. Ebright

          Is this the link ?https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/status/1451346304366350339 …

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          Richard H. EbrightVerified account @R_H_Ebright
          Replying to @gojomo
          The year-5 progress report for the first 5-year grant is at https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Year-5-EHAv.pdf …. More detailed information is available in the year-4 progress report for the first 5-year grant and the proposal for the second 5-year grant (see links from article at https://theintercept.com/2021/09/09/covid-origins-gain-of-function-research/ …).
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        1. Richard H. Ebright‏Verified account @R_H_Ebright 21 Oct 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @antonioregalado

          That is not how things ever work. Except for special projects with special protection.

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