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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

      72% of the unvaccinated said they'd quit after a mandate. In real life, few do. Studies show older people are vulnerable to misinformation and Fox News, and yet almost all are vaccinated. What explains this? My piece of the sociology of the unvaccinated. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/15/opinion/covid-vaccines-unvaccinated.html …pic.twitter.com/wG8ML6oXYZ

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

      Yes, some unvaccinated are deniers claiming COVID is a hoax. But research shows many other groups. There are unvaccinated people who wear masks, for example: most likely to be black women. Only a third of pregnant women are vaccinated: babies are being orphaned as they're born.pic.twitter.com/zedfkCLqXR

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

      For some, fear of needles reaches phobia-levels and can cause them to faint or have a panic attack. Research suggests about one in ten adults avoid vaccines because of this. Canada, UK etc. reach out, offer support and privacy rooms. What do we do? Everything to make it worse.pic.twitter.com/VvLdKqMw4C

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

      Also, look. Researchers trying to study issues like these—how many of the unvaccinated can be reached and how—are *still* struggling to get even meager levels of funding. I don't care how it works in movies: brilliant science is great, but cannot, by itself, fix all that ails us.pic.twitter.com/tgg7pVU723

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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Lamaur Stancil

      Yes. These people absolutely exist, and some may be too ashamed to admit this, and are talking about "doing more research" when they are, in fact, frozen in fear. Mandates can absolutely help these people, in my view, but we can do more to offer support.https://twitter.com/TCPalmLStancil/status/1449003178373038115 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Lamaur StancilVerified account @TCPalmLStancil
      By chance, a vaccine hesitant reader called me Thursday and expressed his fear of needles and a looming employer mandate to get the jab. He told me he hasn't been to a doctor in a decade. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1448996193212710934 …
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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted b18c1swap

      Yes, part of it. I've suggested mandates since May, but as @ScottGottliebMD says, big carrots are better than big sticks when possible. Research shows an uptick in vaccine hesitancy among young women/mothers: a five-alarm fire for childhood vaccination.https://twitter.com/b18c1swap/status/1449005897221562369 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      b18c1swap @b18c1swap
      Replying to @zeynep
      Why not mention that people can’t afford to lose their jobs when discussing mandate success?
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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

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      Yep. Smart policy is to allow the unvaccinated who are fearful, frozen, or made a bad decision before to wait and now can't admit it, to cross the line *in a face-saving manner.* Pry that group away from the ideological, loud, rage-inducing anti-vaxxers. https://twitter.com/PaffyRalmeiro/status/1449007804648468480 …

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

      I don't begrudge anyone's anger—especially at those stoking fear as a strategy in our increasingly non-responsive politics. Still must work to understand the lay of the land. *They* want it to be only a shouting match. *Their* strategy is to confuse and polarize around the anger.

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    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted bet snyder

      Immunity after infection is *of course* real but research shows vaccines also benefit these people—more flexible policies from them make sense, but we don't even have a system to verify vaccination. So many failures go back to logistics/infrastructure.https://twitter.com/BetSnyder/status/1449011303809437699 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      bet snyder @BetSnyder
      Replying to @zeynep @pragmatism_of
      Struggling to understand how you write a deep dive into the unvaccinated and not mention one single word about the many millions of people who have recovered from a COVID infection and already have immunity. Bizarre, baffling and disappointing.
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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Kevin Dangoor

      Yep. When I volunteered at a vaccination clinic, we made people *wait* watching others get jabbed, in plain view—exactly the wrong set-up, I've since realized. Needle anxiety is common and can cause people to faint, and yet so little attention to it.https://twitter.com/dangoor/status/1449021788785152000 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Kevin Dangoor @dangoor
      Replying to @zeynep
      Knowing about the fear of needles that some % of people have, it kind of drives me crazy that *so many* articles about the vaccine show a needle going into an arm. It seems like that would just make it harder for those with needle fear.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Codename Dutchess

      Some will get sick and even die—and many are just afraid or confused, not committed anti-vaxxers. Plus, even 10% unvaccinated can overload hospitals: ICUs have little slack. And this keeps the virus circulating more, risking elderly, immunocompromised etc.https://twitter.com/Jimmy_Stick/status/1449024735807950859 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Codename Dutchess @Jimmy_Stick
      Replying to @zeynep
      With 80% of all adults vaccinated does it really even matter to reach these people?
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Oct 2021

          Also on the side-effects: I recently had a minor concern during a routine COVID test on a weekend. It resulted in a bill I was told would be between $0 and $4500—and nobody could tell me which, for months. And my insurance is what counts as really solid, for the US. Just nuts.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Oct 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted S. Mitra Kalita

          A thread with a good local reporting from the NYC area on this topic. "Undervaccinated areas are often barometers of disconnect."https://twitter.com/mitrakalita/status/1449368483075137542 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          S. Mitra KalitaVerified account @mitrakalita
          Don’t forget to read our reams of work on this, making exact same points from Queens https://epicenter-nyc.com/the-7-truths-about-vaccines-right-now/ …
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Oct 2021

          I’m getting objections in versions of “what about those with natural immunity”. Despite looking as hard as I could, I see no evidence of a sizable group among the remaining unvaccinated who have that as a key reason. It’s more an online polarization angle and talking point.

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 16 Oct 2021

          A debate on what the previously-infected should be recommended etc. is valid imo, but has little to do with the questions around the *sociology* of the unvaccinated. I think it’s one of those talking points for the very-online/polarized, rather than a big deal for many out there.

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        6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Oct 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Tracy  🍑

          This is a good thread. I'd like to underline: only about a third of pregnant women are vaccinated, with terrible outcomes: high rates of death. As she says later, this intersects with how we've miscommunicated about "natural"/safe and fertility/pregnancy.https://twitter.com/tracybrisson/status/1449737791022239749 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Tracy  🍑 @tracybrisson
          I work in an industry with a very low vax rate (weddings) in the south, and am hiring, so I speak to a lot of unvaxed. They fall into 3 distinct camps (1) worried about fertility (most), (2) they think a mask is the same as a vaccine, and (3) medical freedom (least). (1/x) https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1448992640343674881 …
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        7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Oct 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          I keep being asked about (potential) long-term effects. The concern is valid, but there really *are* good reasons for why we can be more confident with vaccines and (lack of) long-term effects, compared to regular drugs. See this piece by @andrew_croxfordhttps://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1443938961693544455 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          Yes, many people feel more comfortable with drugs than vaccines, but, in fact, it is much easier to be comfortable with long-term safety profile of vaccines than many drugs. Excellent long-form article by @andrew_croxford here on why, for the curious: https://bostonreview.net/science-nature/andrew-l-croxford-long-term-safety-argument-over-covid-19-vaccines … pic.twitter.com/vufTkRHpuB
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        8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Oct 2021

          A more valid concern is whether we are picking up rare *but quick* adverse effects now—very rare events require large sample sizes to find the signal. So, yes, there is an enormous effort to find those, but also, the point is exactly that: they are very, very rare.

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        9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 19 Oct 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ali Velshi

          I wish I could be viscerally shocked but I'm so used to this that I can only be intellectually shocked. Once again: like many other thorny problems, effective pandemic management necessarily needed deep societal understanding, not just medical competence.https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status/1449767698540400651 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Ali VelshiVerified account @AliVelshi
          “We underestimated the vaccine hesitancy issue.” @NIHDirector on what could have been done differently, as 66 million remain unvaxxed. “I wish we had somehow seen that coming and come up with some kind of a myth-buster approach.” #Velshi http://ow.ly/x81K50GsJL7 
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        10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Dec 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Rachel Elizabeth Moran, PhD

          Been months since my original piece on this, but I want to add this thoughtful, reflective personal thread here on how vaccine hesitancy and misinformation interact, especially in the context of peers and trust in institutions—thread by a researcher.https://twitter.com/RachelEMoran/status/1469386846710865920 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Rachel Elizabeth Moran, PhD @RachelEMoran
          I’m needle phobic and have tendency towards fainting (a lot) and so the thought of getting a vaccine filled me with anxiety. Pair that with the confusion (and fears of cost) of the US medical system and I was dreading navigating and then getting vaccinated.
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        1. Robin Hood‏ @__Chimaera 15 Oct 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          It’s also really callous to ask if saving “these people” matters.

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