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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Oct 2021

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Benjy Renton

    In a state with ~95% of those 65 and older are double-vaccinated. I think Delta will find and infect everyone vulnerable, eventually. Also think all our risk/benefit calculations should be infected vs vaccinated, not vaccinated versus baseline (e.g. myocarditis risk in teens).https://twitter.com/bhrenton/status/1445424532328787974 …

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    Benjy Renton @bhrenton
    Vaccines work. In Vermont, every single patient in the ICU in the last 7 days was unvaccinated. pic.twitter.com/SX4QgfA0NW
    9:52 AM - 5 Oct 2021
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      1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Oct 2021

        In other words, rare risks from vaccines should be evaluated by comparing vaccination risks to outcomes of unvaccinated infections, not to a baseline drawn from a world without COVID-19 imo. Any assumption many people will manage to avoid exposure/infection seems unwarranted.

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      1. Mark‏ @sportscubs 5 Oct 2021
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        I have been fully vaccinated since last April, but I have plenty of co-workers who won't get the life saving vaccines right now! Anyways, I believe I have one of those allergy related colds and I am so glad I am not working this week.

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      2. JarekFA  🇳🇱 🇸🇷 🇭🇰 🇱🇹 🇺🇦‏ @JarekFA 5 Oct 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        Right. It’s like wow, the vax can cause myocarditis in 1 out of X teens, that’s terrifying (whereas Covid would cause it in 1 out of (X/10) teens!)

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      3. JarekFA  🇳🇱 🇸🇷 🇭🇰 🇱🇹 🇺🇦‏ @JarekFA 5 Oct 2021
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        To wit:pic.twitter.com/Zbf5HnP8iH

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      2. Ben Adida‏ @benadida 5 Oct 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        Some smart person said, a few months ago, that everyone is going to meet covid, either via the vaccine or the virus. Oh wait that was you :)

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Oct 2021
        Replying to @benadida

        Hah, thanks. Wasn't just me, but Delta appears to have an R around 6 to 8. Yeah, yikes. That is not an easy hurdle.

        2 replies 2 retweets 16 likes
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      1. goldnecklace‏ @goldnecklace2 5 Oct 2021
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        This is the correct framing. I live in Seattle, where covid has been circulating for over two years. I know almost no one who hasn’t had it, and we have a v large group of friends and colleagues. You can say you don’t mind getting infected, but it’s silly to believe you won’t.

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      1. Juan Rivera‏ @juanrive 5 Oct 2021
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        Correct

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      1. Charles‏ @Charles60574837 5 Oct 2021
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        Tiny Vt #1 most vax'd @ 70% .3 deaths/day per 100,000, a 362,000 deaths/yr rate if applied to US. In US winter, vax on pace to be 63% by Dec 31, not enough. Compare NY, Mass. or UK to FR, IT, Ger. (vax, tracing, passport, indoor masks). Will 1,000 US deaths/day Jan 2022 be OK?

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      1. Eisar Lipkovitz‏ @lipko 5 Oct 2021
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        Same data from Israel, light blue Unvaccinated, Dark Green booster, normalized to 100k of respective populationpic.twitter.com/3wPnnmLIGc

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