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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Sep 2021

      Do people know that the 1890 pandemic was likely caused by another coronavirus, OC43 (that was then novel?) Nowadays, no longer novel, it is one of the causes of the common cold. We're obviously not living in the OC43 pandemic since, and we won't live in a COVID pandemic forever.

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    2. cbergenholtz‏ @justsomeoneDK 27 Sep 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      cbergenholtz Retweeted Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS

      But is it not a worry, still, that Cov19 is genetically different compared to former Corona viruses?https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/1441042305457303552 …

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      Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS @fitterhappierAJ
      The virus won't be benign The trajectory has been more immune-evasive (chronic), with retention of the superantigen, fcs, and refinement of fcs advantageousness As I have said long ago Rather, it will exert selection pressure on people. We're not the humans adapted to cov2 https://twitter.com/dgurdasani1/status/1441033557284057091 …
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    4. Andrew L. Croxford‏ @andrew_croxford 27 Sep 2021
      Replying to @ChiefStevieP @justsomeoneDK @zeynep

      Absolutely. One of the worst.

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    5. Muge Cevik‏Verified account @mugecevik 28 Sep 2021
      Replying to @andrew_croxford @ChiefStevieP and

      Agreed. 99% of the time I have no idea what he is talking about, just a compilation of scary, novel & scientific words with no actual meaning & zero scientific sense. Interestingly, people rt things they don’t fully understand. 🧐

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Sep 2021
      Replying to @mugecevik @andrew_croxford and

      Yeah, people see a credential and some jargon and assume it's scientific. But the bigger picture: how is a regular person supposed to tell the crankery from the real thing? Just check the credentials doesn't work. (For everything claimed, there is a person with the right degree).

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Sep 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

      The solution cannot be for people to individually try to weed out the cranks. It's also hard to tell the crankery from disagreement/dispute within the bounds of science without the background. (Dose-sparing: disagreement. Claiming documented/big ADE risk for COVID vax: crankery).

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        1. Peje‏ @Pejegordo 28 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          Regarding ADE, which I agreeis crankery to claim it has been documented. My question is how can we be certain it is not a long term risk after immunity wanes and/or virus evolution? (I'm ignorant on ADE, except Wikipedia claims was ruled out in the first few months of research).

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        1. Howie Stuart‏ @hrstuart1 28 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          I work on antennas. The field of antennas has always had cranks. They attract attention and funding for nonsensical ideas. Some leading experts in the field devote a portion of their time to debunking the cranks. It is a public service, and the rest of us are grateful for it.

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        2. Mildly Epidemic Delegator‏ @EpicDelegator 29 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          AJL is not claiming that there is ADE. His concerns about the possible super-antigen and adaptive immune dysregulation are plausible, supported by research, but not confirmed. Grounds for disagreement, not dismissal. U either have to do the reading, or trust someone else's word.

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        3. Standup4rojava‏ @standup4rojava_ 29 Sep 2021
          Replying to @EpicDelegator @zeynep and

          Agreed. He may be some sort of #doomer to some but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a smoking gun. The SAg might be there, the decerebration might be there, cov2 might lay dormant, etc - i’d rather keep discussing the possibility of all this rather than downplaying this virus

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        2. Dr. Lisa Iannattone‏ @lisa_iannattone 29 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          Are we thinking about the same scientist here? Because “bounds of science” is an apt description of the content he posts. I haven’t seen another immunologist on this platform as familiar with the covid immunology literature as he is.

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        2. Graeme Blake‏ @graemeblake 29 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          What do you call misrepresenting someone's position? Anthony has repeatedly said he does NOT think there is evidence of ADE

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        3. Graeme Blake‏ @graemeblake 29 Sep 2021
          Replying to @graemeblake @zeynep and

          You've done great work during the pandemic and I admire it. And perhaps @fitterhappierAJ is wrong. But it would be much more persuasive if this thread attacking him could offer something other than ad hominem

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        1. mike johansen 🎊 🥳‏ @mikejohansenmd 29 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          This thread is something out of mean girls.

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        2. Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS‏ @fitterhappierAJ 29 Sep 2021
          Replying to @ssiilleeh @zeynep and

          Are they libelling me, at this point?

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