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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 27 Sep 2021

      Do people know that the 1890 pandemic was likely caused by another coronavirus, OC43 (that was then novel?) Nowadays, no longer novel, it is one of the causes of the common cold. We're obviously not living in the OC43 pandemic since, and we won't live in a COVID pandemic forever.

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    2. cbergenholtz‏ @justsomeoneDK 27 Sep 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      cbergenholtz Retweeted Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS

      But is it not a worry, still, that Cov19 is genetically different compared to former Corona viruses?https://twitter.com/fitterhappierAJ/status/1441042305457303552 …

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      Anthony J Leonardi, PhD, MS @fitterhappierAJ
      The virus won't be benign The trajectory has been more immune-evasive (chronic), with retention of the superantigen, fcs, and refinement of fcs advantageousness As I have said long ago Rather, it will exert selection pressure on people. We're not the humans adapted to cov2 https://twitter.com/dgurdasani1/status/1441033557284057091 …
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    4. Andrew L. Croxford‏ @andrew_croxford 27 Sep 2021
      Replying to @ChiefStevieP @justsomeoneDK @zeynep

      Absolutely. One of the worst.

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    5. Muge Cevik‏Verified account @mugecevik 28 Sep 2021
      Replying to @andrew_croxford @ChiefStevieP and

      Agreed. 99% of the time I have no idea what he is talking about, just a compilation of scary, novel & scientific words with no actual meaning & zero scientific sense. Interestingly, people rt things they don’t fully understand. 🧐

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Sep 2021
      Replying to @mugecevik @andrew_croxford and

      Yeah, people see a credential and some jargon and assume it's scientific. But the bigger picture: how is a regular person supposed to tell the crankery from the real thing? Just check the credentials doesn't work. (For everything claimed, there is a person with the right degree).

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        2. Will Hoenig‏ @WilliamBHoenig 28 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          Honestly it’s hard enough when plenty of *credible* experts disagree on things (see: your thread on OC43 yesterday)

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Sep 2021
          Replying to @WilliamBHoenig @mugecevik and

          But that's perfectly fine. It was a valid, interesting and actually productive set of disagreements about an open question. (Though haha someone reported it to Twitter's misinformation system as if the exact pathogen for 1890 is a misinfo problem—folks have time on their hands).

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 28 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          The solution cannot be for people to individually try to weed out the cranks. It's also hard to tell the crankery from disagreement/dispute within the bounds of science without the background. (Dose-sparing: disagreement. Claiming documented/big ADE risk for COVID vax: crankery).

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        3. Peje‏ @Pejegordo 28 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          Regarding ADE, which I agreeis crankery to claim it has been documented. My question is how can we be certain it is not a long term risk after immunity wanes and/or virus evolution? (I'm ignorant on ADE, except Wikipedia claims was ruled out in the first few months of research).

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        1. peg‏ @pegj_ 28 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          While it’s true that it’s difficult to know what to believe, what’s surprising to me is that the overwhelming majority of ppl are not seeking out info. Monoclonal antibodies? “Oh I hadn’t heard about that”. Educated business-ppl. Online is a different world.

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        2. cbergenholtz‏ @justsomeoneDK 28 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          I was less interested in discussing who are cranks, but a scientific question: SARS-CoV-2 is argued, e.g., to lead to loss of of grey brain matter. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01693-6 … 1) Is this just bad research design/data, 2) do all coronaviruses do this, or is 3) SARS-CoV-2 particular?

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        2. The Underground Academic‏ @Itisallacademic 29 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          Leonardi has been right on T cells, involvement of/impact on the brain, and non seroconversion. Months before anyone else. No idea why he's being criticised.

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        1. Artemis ☂️ 🍵 🌿 *Mild 2022*‏ @GreenWalker92 29 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mugecevik and

          How dare you agree with this defamation?

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