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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Sep 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted NEJM Journal Watch

      Fantastic study. It was the act of taking a pill that induced symptoms, not the statins in the pill themselves—even if side effects stopped when the pill was discontinued. The human mind/brain is a player in everything. “Some patients had fewer symptoms on statins than placebo.”https://twitter.com/JWatch/status/1441029583042719744 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      NEJM Journal Watch @JWatch
      Statins' side effects seem more related to taking a pill than to what's in the pill. https://jwat.ch/3EIMRnp  @hmkyale #statins
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    2. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 23 Sep 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      I was in physical therapy for weeks due to a high dose of Crestor. Wish I’d known that it was in my head.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Sep 2021
      Replying to @matthew_d_green

      You know this isn’t about rare but super serious side effects. Did you have rhabdomyolysis? Sorry to hear that.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Steve Mushero‏ @stevemushero 23 Sep 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @matthew_d_green

      Not only rhabdomyolysis, but early Lipitor worsened my existing mild tendonitis - clearly dose-related and better on 2nd statin and much better but not gone on Crestor - assuming it's not all in my head, but the feeling old effect feels real to me after a year.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Sep 2021
      Replying to @stevemushero @matthew_d_green

      Obviously a study like this doesn’t say anything about individual cases. But to be clear again, the fact that the mind and brain are involved in side effects doesn’t mean any particular drug doesn’t have side effects.

      5:15 PM - 23 Sep 2021
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        2. Matthew Green‏Verified account @matthew_d_green 23 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @stevemushero

          It was an N=60 study so I’m not sure what conclusions to draw from it. Maybe that’s not enough people to come to any strong conclusion. For my N=1: all I know is that my knees ached like crazy until I switched statins, and then they felt normal again.

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        3. Rene Sugar‏ @renesugar 23 Sep 2021
          Replying to @matthew_d_green @zeynep @stevemushero

          The "biopsychosocial" model with the emphasis on psychology is embedded in the medical profession in the UK. They did and continue to do a lot of damage to ME/CFS patients with the same approach.https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/22/delay-british-chronic-fatigue-guidelines-setback-for-me-cfs-long-covid/ …

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