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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted John Burn-Murdoch

      Disagree. We should be honest. IT IS A ZERO-SUM GAME. Vaccine manufacturers are not able to meet demand. Production is already maxed out. If we hoard or have vaccines expire rather than share, that doesn't make it a non zero-sum game, it just makes us morally bankrupt.https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1438103141216575490 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      John Burn-MurdochVerified account @jburnmurdoch
      Now with two injections (sorry) of nuance: 1) I don’t think it’s helpful to think of vaccine supply as a zero-sum game. Vaccine manufacturers respond to demand, and it’s not as simple as booster doses being diverted from Africa
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2021

      I'm not disagreeing that boosters may well be indicated for the elderly and the immunocompromised. J&J needs a booster. But, let's not lie to ourselves. SUPPLY IS LIMITED. A third dose here is a first dose denied to someone else. Whatever we choose, that is just plain reality.

      16 replies 77 retweets 448 likes
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Lúcás Meier

      Yep. That is not the case whatsoever. Look, I understand nations make such choices. There are groups for whom a third shot can provide a measurable benefit, and I'm not begrudging any individual at risk wanting one. Of course. But it *is* a zero-sum game.https://twitter.com/cronokirby/status/1438115186813063173 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Lúcás Meier @cronokirby
      Replying to @zeynep
      "Vaccine manufacturers respond to demand" implies that the current lack of supply is because of insufficient demand, which doesn't seem to be the case.
      3 replies 10 retweets 185 likes
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Diego Bez.

      I've been writing, begging whatever little I can do since the beginning that we should do *whatever* we can do to increase supply—waiving patents is "thoughts and prayers", not enough—and to be serious about dose sparing and prioritizing. But here we are.https://twitter.com/Diegobez/status/1438117288331431950 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Diego Bez. @Diegobez
      I wish we don't see the vaccine supply as an inevitably-limited supply.I'd like to see more effort in increasing that supply. It's "just" a (not huge)money problem, a problem that should not be left to private company's decision. It's a public health matter, live or die decisions https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1438115805342932997 …
      5 replies 18 retweets 172 likes
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    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Chase W. Nelson 倪誠志

      Yeah. Even countries with money can't find vaccines to purchase. Honestly, I think vaccine manufacturers have increased supply as much as they can, and it's not really patents that are the key bottleneck. We needed government-level global action. Tragic.https://twitter.com/chasewnelson/status/1438117742209495043 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Chase W. Nelson 倪誠志 @chasewnelson
      Replying to @zeynep
      Here in #Taiwan, we can't find a way to BUY everyone dose 1. In low-income countries, <2% have dose 1. This is where new globe-altering variants will arise.
      8 replies 36 retweets 242 likes
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    6. Govind Persad‏ @GovindPersad 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Govind Persad Retweeted William F Parker, MD, PhD

      I agree that the claims of “no tradeoff” between boosters and global vaccines are unsupported. Yet, the tradeoff isn’t inevitably 1:1. We’ve argued in @BostonGlobe that tradeoffs could be mitigated (not totally eliminated) by fractional dosing, mix&match, longer booster intervalshttps://twitter.com/WF_Parker/status/1436005665529647105 …

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      William F Parker, MD, PhD @WF_Parker
      Later today Biden is going to announce a new strategy to fight the COVID crisis @GovindPersad, @ZekeEmanuel, and I argue in order to offer boosters to healthy Americans and vaccinate the world the administration must grab some low-hanging fruit 🧵 (1/6) https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/09/09/opinion/american-covid-boosters-global-vaccinations-how-ensure-both-get-done/ …
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Sep 2021
      Replying to @GovindPersad @BostonGlobe

      No disagreement. I have argued for every one of those since last year, and got a huge amount of "Follow the Science" shouting at me—including from people who should know better—and very few people with the right PhDs spoke up and said exploring dose-sparing is urgent and right.

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        2. Govind Persad‏ @GovindPersad 15 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @BostonGlobe

          Thank you! I’ve been immensely frustrated that, eg, those who claimed the 3-wk US Pfizer dosing interval, as opposed to longer 🇨🇦/🇬🇧 ones, was “the optimal way” have not been been asked—or admitted—that this may have been both near- & long-term suboptimalhttps://www.aamc.org/news-insights/canada-took-risk-delaying-second-covid-19-vaccine-doses-now-its-vaccination-campaign-one-best-world …

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        3. Govind Persad‏ @GovindPersad 15 Sep 2021
          Replying to @GovindPersad @zeynep @BostonGlobe

          I’m curious about whether other countries will do the responsible thing and explore dose optimization more extensively for boosters, just as many non-US countries ended up implementing different dosing schedules, considering prior infection, etc for the primary series

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