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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Sep 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Kevin Drum

      This is nonsense (“question” being SARS-CoV-2 as airborne). Chinese scientists did not “just know”—there had been work on this before including, crucially, from SARS. Western establishment tragically lags—but come on. Asian scientists did not figure it out via their sixth sense.https://twitter.com/kdrum/status/1435089995149168644 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Kevin DrumVerified account @kdrum
      Replying to @mattyglesias
      I read a bunch about this a few months ago, and I was sort of astonished at the lack of actual scientific work on the question. It's crazy that Chinese scientists "just know" that viral spreads are airborne and Western scientists "just know" that they aren't.
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Sep 2021

      There seems to be this inability to accept that there are other countries which managed things better simply because they were better in the science or in their public health approach. But can we at least look up a few things before dismissing them like this.

      9:13 AM - 7 Sep 2021
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Sep 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted

          So “as far as I know” is doing a lot of work here, but there is maaaybe this possibility that they had competent scientists and evidence, especially from SARS? I was reading their papers on this in February of 2020. Yeah papers, not “presumption” as in some intiutive Asian thing. https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1435060205503631364 …

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Sep 2021

          It’s just not true that there was no real evidence or science on airborne transmission and we then caught up. Matt or Kevin might be unaware (fine!) but let’s please not rewrite history and minimize what actually happened. Asian “sixth sense” isn’t the explanatory variable here.

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Sep 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted

          Matt says he didn't mean it as I interpreted. Okay! Still strongly object to @kdrum's phrasing of sides on this were "just know" against "just know" without actual scientific work. https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1435280848899641348 …

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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 7 Sep 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Kevin Drum

          It’s actually incredibly difficult to do parts of it, like capturing live virus from the air. Nobody *ever* managed it for measles. Other evidentiary parts have different levels of difficulty, but “model and test” eek no. My jaw just drops when people have opinions so casually.https://twitter.com/kdrum/status/1435090198338039812 …

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          Kevin DrumVerified account @kdrum
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          The part I never got clear on is why this was a difficult question. It doesn't really seem all that hard to model and test for various sizes of viruses.
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        2. Robert Rath‏ @RobWritesPulp 7 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          People in Hong Kong started universal masking before viral cases showed up in the city or the government suggested it was necessary. It wasn't anything except that's what they did during SARS and they guessed it would be SARS 2.0. It's not even science, just experience.

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        3. Robert Rath‏ @RobWritesPulp 7 Sep 2021
          Replying to @RobWritesPulp @zeynep

          (I should say I'm not arguing with your point, I think you're right, just saying there is also an on-the-ground experience of public health measures already drilled into the public that many western nations did not have.)

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        1. Rohan Chindooroy‏ @RohanChindooroy 7 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          To be fair, the original whole tweet dismisses the existence of any evidence by any scientists (both Western & Chinese), which is going some! Think there could be a useful conversation about priors, as one replied, but shouldn't assume it's always priors rather than evidence.

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        1. Analyst #COVIDisAirborne‏ @stude_med 7 Sep 2021
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          Dogma doesn’t care about evidence it’s a fact free belief system

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