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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes 3 Sep 2021

      On a scale of 1-10, 10 being masks are intolerably awful to wear, and 1 being “I actually like it,” I’m probably around an 8 or 9. And yet I STILL truly do not understand people who have turned opposition to masks into their own personal George-Orwell-In-Catalonia Moral Struggle.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Sep 2021
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      We're as much a species of talismans as one of tools, and many objects are both, obviously, especially in plague times—but we pretend we're only about the latter, that's why. You're asking why all the fuss about this one tool when the answer is that talisman conjure our passions.

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        2. Chris Hayes‏Verified account @chrislhayes 3 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Yes definitely. But some Talismans I get! This one I don’t.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 3 Sep 2021
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          It's the single-most visible intervention or symbol of this pandemic, it involves the human face, and one over which there were a lot of fights on all spheres. Not at all surprised there is so much psychic energy spent on it as a talisman—rather than seeing it like a mere tool.

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        1.  🦣matt 🏴‏ @malatesting 3 Sep 2021
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          as a longtime proponent of masks as both tools and talismans, yep. It’s actually been weird watching politicians use our phrases (“mask up” for example).https://youtu.be/vai3yXT2CZA 

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        2. NKinNewEng‏ @NKinNewEng 3 Sep 2021
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          I’m a professor of religion and I don’t buy this as having anything to do with the resistance of most anti-maskers.

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        1. pgoat (she)‏ @pgoat 3 Sep 2021
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          I didn't know you were also a poet, @zeynep. 💜

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        1. Mathias Verraes‏ @mathiasverraes 3 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes

          - "Father, I lost the talisman you gave me." - "It doesn't matter son. You'll learn that a man's true talisman are his head, his heart, and his hands." (From "Thorgal", an 80s fantasy comic)

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        1. wildflours‏ @SeaFlourChild 3 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes

          Answers like this are why I embroidered a Zeynep patch for my pandemic art jacket. #humanitiestoopic.twitter.com/4uqRHaWL2b

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        2. David Ridley‏ @RidleyDM 3 Sep 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @chrislhayes

          That is a big part of what annoys me. I am about a 9 on @chrislhayes' scale but had no trouble with them in 2020, or in contexts where they've been thought through. But I have no patience for symbolism, message-sending, or indeed doing things for the sake of doing something.

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        3. lord nikon  🧦‏ @lordnikon42069 3 Sep 2021
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          She’s saying it’s both, you’re ignoring the tool part and thinking it’s only a talisman.

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