Could “certain communities” please tell us more, and will reporters kindly develop some curiosity about this? This date shift is a really big deal. Anyone who thinks we knew by then is misremembering. Rumors: last days of December. Public email about outbreak: December 31.https://twitter.com/NAChristakis/status/1432875764895133710 …
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I’ll add this here, and the still unexplained discrepancies between the early scientific papers in Jan-Mar 2020 and the later WHO report. The remarkable dearth of good reporting (not the “lab was where the viruses are” type embarrassments!) is so baffling.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/covid-wuhan-outbreak-who/2021/07/15/51e7e8a6-e2c6-11eb-88c5-4fd6382c47cb_story.html …
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bloom Lab
And the discrepancies noted here. We simply do not have a clear and consistent timeline of the December 2019 cases that fits the known facts and reports and makes sense. Remarkable since so little is known to begin with!https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1432903935312818178 …
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Bloom Lab @jbloom_lab@zeynep, here are some more interesting early#SARSCov2 dates for you. Check out the description of the samples in the final published version of this paper (https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/71/15/713/5780800 …): "Eight COVID-19 pneumonia samples were collected from hospitals in Wuhan in January 2020." (1/3) https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1432869196216651777 …Show this thread5 replies 20 retweets 127 likesShow this thread -
Hard to square the official timeline with the known facts including, possibly now, there was enough to notice by December 15th—in a city of eleven million—that Chinese scientists told their Western colleagues… Where, then, are the cases? See official timeline in the WHO report.pic.twitter.com/YB9kpGBYfd
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zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci
Sorry messed up threading. Here’s a confirmation that this is what Dr. Lipkin and others had been saying all along. (Bafflingly ignored?). So where are these *known* cases? Total different timeline of known events than official timeline. *Known* contemporaneously is a big deal.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1433056719731576837 …
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zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynepConfirmation. Dr. Lipkin had said in April 2020 he heard about the new disease in *mid-December.* (The revelation was baffling, and some thought one of the world's top virologists would be confused about dates as important as this. Anyway, no). https://www.ft.com/content/6e9b4fe7-b26e-45b9-acbd-2b24d182e914 … pic.twitter.com/5zKaN423zWShow this thread3 replies 5 retweets 35 likesShow this thread -
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Adding to thread (I messed up)

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zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynepPeople who think this was public info/rumored by mid-December. You're all misremembering. Rumors last week of December, towards the end. ProMED email December 30/31 (timezone). And this time-shift is a huge deal given what we've been told about known cases and knowledge.Show this thread1 reply 1 retweet 23 likesShow this thread -
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zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynepOfficially, there are only five known cases, *including* retrospectively-identified ones, before December 15th. In a city of eleven million. If Chinese scientists were telling Western colleagues about a "new disease" on December 15th—as Dr. Lipkin says—that timeline doesn't work. pic.twitter.com/2VgksHuYouShow this thread2 replies 3 retweets 30 likesShow this thread -
zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci
Others confirm timeline of contemporaneously *known* cases and news of “new disease” being known and circulated by mid-December. This all contradicts so much of what we’ve been told about what got *known* when by whom.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1433061643219574788 …
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zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynepAnother confirmation. Folks, yes there were earlier *unknown* cases. This is different. This means that by mid-December, there are enough *known* to Chinese scientists cases that they were saying it's a *new disease* to other scientists. Where's this info? https://twitter.com/WhereIsYanLing/status/1432971332032073728 …Show this thread4 replies 3 retweets 55 likesShow this thread -
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Just adding to thread. Again note the key difference: not that there are unknown earlier cases (never disputed, the usual) but that there were enough known ones, and enough work on this, that by mid-December that Chinese scientists noticed and alerted colleagues to “new disease.”https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1433062966077886464 …
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zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynepMore virologists saying they heard about it in early December (but one apparently later saying he misremembered?). It's in Dutch—can't confirm. These are not minor details. I remember every key date in January 2020 and I followed only in personal capacity. https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1432888051806638088 …Show this thread13 replies 6 retweets 52 likesShow this thread -
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maybe look for "Wuhan Virus?" here is AP report from mid Jan 2020 that seems to indicate that people were already awarehttps://apnews.com/article/health-japan-china-pneumonia-asia-pacific-3845a158612c6cc556c8cb7b91f5d078 …
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And report from Jan 8, 2020 from Chinese state media. For them to release this in Jan 2020 probably means that others in the filed were more aware in Dec 2019https://apnews.com/article/wuhan-health-pneumonia-international-news-china-1565541fb13b6a2f0c871e0eae02bd7d …
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