People who think this was public info/rumored by mid-December. You're all misremembering. Rumors last week of December, towards the end. ProMED email December 30/31 (timezone). And this time-shift is a huge deal given what we've been told about known cases and knowledge.
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Officially, there are only five known cases, *including* retrospectively-identified ones, before December 15th. In a city of eleven million. If Chinese scientists were telling Western colleagues about a "new disease" on December 15th—as Dr. Lipkin says—that timeline doesn't work.pic.twitter.com/2VgksHuYou
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Another confirmation. Folks, yes there were earlier *unknown* cases. This is different. This means that by mid-December, there are enough *known* to Chinese scientists cases that they were saying it's a *new disease* to other scientists. Where's this info?https://twitter.com/WhereIsYanLing/status/1432971332032073728 …
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More virologists saying they heard about it in early December (but one apparently later saying he misremembered?). It's in Dutch—can't confirm. These are not minor details. I remember every key date in January 2020 and I followed only in personal capacity.https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1432888051806638088 …
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Lemme try again. YES THERE WERE EARLIER CASES THAT REMAIN UNKNOWN. Stop saying that, please.
We know that. This is a different question: when were there enough *known* cases of a new disease that Chinese scientists noticed contemporaneously—enough to alert Western colleagues.Show this thread
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What is mid+December?
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What's the significance, isn't this when everyone was learning about it?
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Chinese government didn’t acknowledge an unknown new virus until Dec 31st. It’s an intelligence failure if academic, but not the USA government, have confirmation before an authoritarian secretive government bothers confirming something.
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This article is from 3/14/2020....there were many more like it....some disappearedhttps://www.livescience.com/first-case-coronavirus-found.html …
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Only SCMP reporters have seen the docs for that and they won't release them
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