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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 31 Aug 2021

      New Spike Lee documentary about the pandemic opens with Ian Lipkin—Columbia virologist—saying he first heard about the outbreak on *December 15th*. Watched it three times to make sure I heard it right. Lee asks and Lipkin repeats the date. This is a big deal, no? December 15???pic.twitter.com/nE355EALac

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    2. Anneik  💛‏ @Blondetown 31 Aug 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      December 12, 2019 is stated as the start in this article.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2012-7 …

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 31 Aug 2021
      Replying to @Blondetown

      That’s a later article, and yes, the timeline we’ve had doesn’t fit what we were told was known contemporaneously.

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        2. Anneik  💛‏ @Blondetown 31 Aug 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          yes, but, i remember first hearing what i dismissed as a rumor about a new virus out of China before Xmas 2019 in emails and texts, as casual conversations, as in "did you hear" gossip. This was the earliest mention i could find. not contemporaneous doesn't invalidate it!

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        3. Anneik  💛‏ @Blondetown 31 Aug 2021
          Replying to @Blondetown @zeynep

          Months pass between research findings & publication. You know this!

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        2. Gilles Demaneuf‏ @gdemaneuf 31 Aug 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @Blondetown

          The dates are a mess. Even the initial official case of the 8th Dec is not what it seems [but it's an essential case for other reasons]. Smoke and mirrors while scrubbing fast.

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        3. Dave Atkinson‏ @DaveAtkinsonMD 31 Aug 2021
          Replying to @gdemaneuf @zeynep @Blondetown

          i just love the idea that there were only 2 cases on December 11th, and then Ian Lipkin finds out about the new disease 4 days later... it's because they're THAT GOOD!!!!

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        1. HFM  🏴‍☠️ 🛸‏ @HFentonMudd 31 Aug 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @Blondetown

          It was December, no January, a bat, no a lab, um um, an American FUNDED lab!, no not American..! Fasssssscinatingpic.twitter.com/eOab60COEx

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