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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

      Every piece of data from real-life shows the vaccines work very, very well— yes, even against Delta. Just checked US vaccine breakthrough hospitalizations. It's 6,587 people among the ~163,000,000 vaccinated: or 0.004%. Three fourths are elderly— as happens with other diseases. https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1421499504486883330 …pic.twitter.com/fUaTyXprey

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

      This isn't saying let's throw the elderly under the bus—the unvaccinated mortality was horrific and unacceptable. But a small amount of vaccine failure, mostly among the elderly, isn't COVID-specific. That's just age. All nursing home staff must be vaccinated against flu & COVID.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

      Delta is continuing to take a terrible toll, around the world, on the unvaccinated—and billions still do not have access to any vaccine! Of course it would be better if it didn't cause breakthroughs either, but the way forward is clear and unchanged. Vaccinate before infection.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Henry

      Me neither! Nobody wants to get sick, even if vaccinated. The point is vaccinating as many as possible, as fast as possible, is the clear way forward. Delta waves (around the world) are fast—on the way up and down—and do great damage to the unvaccinated.https://twitter.com/Fdr1942/status/1421856822575566851 …

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      Henry @Fdr1942
      Replying to @zeynep
      Not being hospitalized certainly is paramount but one can still be without a sense of smell and w fever for days and long COVID is still uncharted territory. So I don't want to get COVID even if the symptoms fall short of hospitalization
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted @SmartRestartAPS

      Fair part: Delta will continue to burn through the US (maybe about another month or two, judging from other countries?) and there will be more breakthroughs & some hospitalizations among the vaccinated. Same point though: massive risk to the unvaccinated.https://twitter.com/smartrestartaps/status/1421861330689089546 …

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      @SmartRestartAPS @smartrestartaps
      Replying to @zeynep
      But can we not use 163-million as a denominator when there have only EVER been 35-million confirmed infections in the USA, Delta only recently established itself, and majority of people have not even been exposed to it yet? This is very misleading. And leads to further distrust.
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        1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Balaji

          Not doing a vaccine efficacy calculation here. But there were more hospitalizations in *one* week (ending on January 09, 2021: 6679) in the US than *all* vaccine breakthrough hospitalizations combined since May. Deaths among hospitalized is lower, too.https://twitter.com/balajiworld/status/1421864632256372739 …

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          Balaji @balajiworld
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          Better to report last year's hospitalizations among the whole adult population. And then compare with 6,587 per ~163 million vaccinated. 0.004% here says nothing about vaccine effectiveness.
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        2. Balaji‏ @balajiworld 1 Aug 2021
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          Better to report last year's hospitalizations among the whole adult population. And then compare with 6,587 per ~163 million vaccinated. 0.004% here says nothing about vaccine effectiveness.

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        3. Rui M M Brito‏ @rui_m_brito 1 Aug 2021
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          Hello? Did you compare? The math is not that hard.

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        1. Christian Staton‏ @StatonTheTruth 1 Aug 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          “Massive”? Lol.

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        1. Lundemo‏ @Lundemo16 1 Aug 2021
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          For parents who just don't want their children to get the virus because they don't know what the effects on their development might be - even from a mild case - this is turning into a marathon. Death is not the only consideration.

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        2. Brennan Leffler‏Verified account @brennanleffler 1 Aug 2021
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          I don't recall anyone who knows what they're talking about promising 100% protection. It's like saying airbags occasionally fail or injured people, so let's not use them and go back to accepting much more severe and higher rates of injuries in car accidents. Totally illogical.

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        3. gardengirl778‏ @gardengirl778 1 Aug 2021
          Replying to @brennanleffler @zeynep

          Head of CDC said, "if you are vaccinated you will not get sick" and "if you are vaccinated you are safe" and "vaccianted don't spread Covid". She spoke in absolutes and should not have.

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        1. Civilization collapse technician Keenan Roberts‏ @HowKeen 1 Aug 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          35 million cases, translates to approx 85 million total infections, according to surveillance studies. Most people with asymptomatic infections don't get tested. This gap may increase due to a higher proportion of vaccinated bt infections are asymptomatic.

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        1. @SmartRestartAPS‏ @smartrestartaps 1 Aug 2021
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          💯! Massive risk to unvaccinated. They’re the ones dying and hospitalized now. Vaccines prevent most death/hospitalization. But good 💡to take other precautions (like 😷 ) even if vaxed to prevent mild case or spreading it as it mutates. Truth isn’t always simple to communicate.

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        1. steve e‏ @bookends_ny 1 Aug 2021
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          Bear in mind that Gamma is only weeks away. Making plans for a booster shot. To remain unvaccinated is basically criminal.

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