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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

    Every piece of data from real-life shows the vaccines work very, very well— yes, even against Delta. Just checked US vaccine breakthrough hospitalizations. It's 6,587 people among the ~163,000,000 vaccinated: or 0.004%. Three fourths are elderly— as happens with other diseases. https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1421499504486883330 …pic.twitter.com/fUaTyXprey

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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

        This isn't saying let's throw the elderly under the bus—the unvaccinated mortality was horrific and unacceptable. But a small amount of vaccine failure, mostly among the elderly, isn't COVID-specific. That's just age. All nursing home staff must be vaccinated against flu & COVID.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

        Delta is continuing to take a terrible toll, around the world, on the unvaccinated—and billions still do not have access to any vaccine! Of course it would be better if it didn't cause breakthroughs either, but the way forward is clear and unchanged. Vaccinate before infection.

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Henry

        Me neither! Nobody wants to get sick, even if vaccinated. The point is vaccinating as many as possible, as fast as possible, is the clear way forward. Delta waves (around the world) are fast—on the way up and down—and do great damage to the unvaccinated.https://twitter.com/Fdr1942/status/1421856822575566851 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Henry @Fdr1942
        Replying to @zeynep
        Not being hospitalized certainly is paramount but one can still be without a sense of smell and w fever for days and long COVID is still uncharted territory. So I don't want to get COVID even if the symptoms fall short of hospitalization
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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted @SmartRestartAPS

        Fair part: Delta will continue to burn through the US (maybe about another month or two, judging from other countries?) and there will be more breakthroughs & some hospitalizations among the vaccinated. Same point though: massive risk to the unvaccinated.https://twitter.com/smartrestartaps/status/1421861330689089546 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        @SmartRestartAPS @smartrestartaps
        Replying to @zeynep
        But can we not use 163-million as a denominator when there have only EVER been 35-million confirmed infections in the USA, Delta only recently established itself, and majority of people have not even been exposed to it yet? This is very misleading. And leads to further distrust.
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      6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Aug 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Balaji

        Not doing a vaccine efficacy calculation here. But there were more hospitalizations in *one* week (ending on January 09, 2021: 6679) in the US than *all* vaccine breakthrough hospitalizations combined since May. Deaths among hospitalized is lower, too.https://twitter.com/balajiworld/status/1421864632256372739 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Balaji @balajiworld
        Replying to @zeynep
        Better to report last year's hospitalizations among the whole adult population. And then compare with 6,587 per ~163 million vaccinated. 0.004% here says nothing about vaccine effectiveness.
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      2. Mysti Berry‏ @MystiBerry 1 Aug 2021
        Replying to @zeynep @kpanyc

        shouldn't we compare the 6,587 to the number of vaccinated people tested during that same time? I mean, we are not testing all 163M....

        2 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
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      2. Tim‏ @ThinkGlobal10 1 Aug 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/07/30/pressure-cdc-breakthrough-cases-501821?__twitter_impression=true … If you're not looking for cases.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. joe‏ @Rarn 1 Aug 2021
        Replying to @ThinkGlobal10 @zeynep

        The data she presented here is hospitalizations not cases. Per the article you linked, hospitalizations were not tracked any differently

        0 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
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      2. Henry‏ @Fdr1942 1 Aug 2021
        Replying to @zeynep

        Not being hospitalized certainly is paramount but one can still be without a sense of smell and w fever for days and long COVID is still uncharted territory. So I don't want to get COVID even if the symptoms fall short of hospitalization

        13 replies 7 retweets 112 likes
      3. Matunos  💉 💉 💉‏ @matunos 1 Aug 2021
        Replying to @Fdr1942 @zeynep

        good news: the vaccine reduces the risk of that too

        2 replies 0 retweets 34 likes
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