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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. Jeremy Faust MD MS (ER physician)‏Verified account @jeremyfaust 29 Jul 2021

      Jeremy Faust MD MS (ER physician) Retweeted Kimberly Prather, Ph.D.

      If you think the R of this virus is single digits during an initial urban outbreak, you’re on another planet. @biomathematicus @JacobBAguilar @LWestafer and I were rejected from “big journal” for finding this. Why? Our finding was “too high” because “SARS2 isn’t airborne” 🤔https://twitter.com/kprather88/status/1420946300049059848 …

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      Kimberly Prather, Ph.D.Verified account @kprather88
      Wow, SARS-CoV-2 is possibly AIRBORNE?? https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1420929106103918599 …
      12 replies 60 retweets 207 likes
    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Jul 2021
      Replying to @jeremyfaust @biomathematicus and

      Circular thinking exhibit A. 😫

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    3. Jeremy Faust MD MS (ER physician)‏Verified account @jeremyfaust 29 Jul 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @biomathematicus and

      Honestly, we didn’t see it as proof that it was airborne. We just saw it as evidence of an *extremely contagious pathogen. But it all fits. It’s always been “airborne enough” that I’ve sat out semantic arguments that are outside of my domain expertise.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 Jul 2021
      Replying to @jeremyfaust @biomathematicus and

      The circular part is there were (even until recently!) assertions that it couldn’t possibly be airborne because R not high enough. (TB is airborne but not high R0 but anyway). Then you submit evidence of high R… Can’t be because not airborne. 😫 (Also overdispersion but yeah).

      9:35 PM - 29 Jul 2021
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      • David Andersen 💉💉💉🎉 Laura McCall #NoMassInfection GrungibleSwan everythingisawful Kimberly Prather, Ph.D. Kristen K. Coleman Dale Wen Alexander Riccio (#covidco2 tracker) Jennifer Dugan
      1 reply 3 retweets 25 likes
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        2. Dr Christine Peters‏ @microlabdoc 30 Jul 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @jeremyfaust and

          Not just recently - current thinking in U.K. - embedded all over IPC literature in U.K. no amount of logic and patient explanation can shift it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
        3. slowphotographer‏ @slowphotograph2 30 Jul 2021
          Replying to @microlabdoc @zeynep and

          It's an old paradigm, like the luminiferous ether. Needs a jackhammer to shift

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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