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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2021

    I wrote about Delta and why we should not surrender to our dysfunction. There's much to be done, from vaccine mandates (yes, yes, it's time) to strong mitigations in schools (the "unvaccinated" include ~50 million children under 12) to response to surges. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/24/opinion/coronavius-vaccine-masks.html …pic.twitter.com/RWES6JE3pb

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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Lbent

        Yep. The situation for them is immensely confusing and frustrating—this isn’t some small afterthought. Tens of millions of households! Plus there’s the immunocompromised.https://twitter.com/lbent/status/1418962247909523468 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Lbent @lbent
        Replying to @zeynep
        "How are parents supposed to negotiate a situation like this, especially if their children are under 12?" Exactly.
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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted bpcostello

        I don’t think that’s really a valid general theory—the real evolutionary pressure is on transmitting and replicating, so as long as that happens the rest can vary in many ways. But our immune system does learn to fight viruses so repeated exposure can result in milder case.https://twitter.com/bpcostello/status/1418959854853570562 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        bpcostello @bpcostello
        Replying to @zeynep
        Any idea what happened to the theory that mutations get weaker because they want hosts to survive? Seems like Delta variant blew that hypothesis out of the water. Thanks
        10 replies 18 retweets 181 likes
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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Logan

        40% of staff in nursing homes and long-term care facilities are unvaccinated. They can transmit to the elderly, whose immune systems are less robust even if vaccinated. Children under 12 cannot be vaccinated. The immunocompromised aren't as well protected.https://twitter.com/loganerik/status/1418974631889981442 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Logan @loganerik
        Replying to @zeynep
        Why is it time to mandate vaccines when the evidence is mounting they largely protect only the individuals who take them?
        10 replies 67 retweets 317 likes
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      5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2021

        Vaccine mandates are already used. We have an ongoing pandemic and many vulnerable populations who cannot fully protect themselves via vaccination. People have a right to refuse vaccination, but not a right to infect the elderly or the immunocompromised. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/24/opinion/coronavius-vaccine-masks.html …pic.twitter.com/HoaI2BQBZL

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      6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Lizard of Science with highly educated T cells 🧬 🦎

        The "labor shortage" can be solved by offering higher-wages and better working conditions. Most nursing homes are for-profit and receive substantial amounts of of taxpayer money, but many fail their residents and underpay their staff. This isn't working.https://twitter.com/sciliz/status/1418978414598529025 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Lizard of Science with highly educated T cells 🧬 🦎 @sciliz
        Its "obvious" to me long term care workers should be vaccinated. It wasn't obvious to me before, but I now recognize that the labor shortage has got to make it extremely challenging to mandate them. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1418976566839812105 …
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      7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2021

        Also, we really cannot, should not, expect parents of children under 12, who are not be able to vaccinate their children, to start the *third* school year of the pandemic with this much confusion. Parents need concrete information, not broad statistics. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/24/opinion/coronavius-vaccine-masks.html …pic.twitter.com/1fNfTC7o9m

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      8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Victor Narro

        This is a good article. The unvaccinated in the United States are not a monolith. We can, and we should try, to get our numbers much higher. The hard-core “never” numbers aren’t as high as it sometimes seems. A lot of in-between.https://twitter.com/NarroVictor/status/1418980260951912463 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Victor Narro @NarroVictor
        Excellent @latimes story by @brittny_mejia. It lifts up community voices on why it's taken so long to get vaccinated. It's not always about ideology or politics. Why haven't you been vaccinated? With COVID-19 raging, people explain what took so long https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-24/ready-for-their-shot-as-the-delta-variant-surges-vaccine-procrastinators-answer-the-question-why-the-long-wait …
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      9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Meaghan Kall

        Evidence is strong that the vaccines remain highly-effective against Delta, but there’s no contradiction between that and saying a surge like the one in the US still requires a collective response, and vaccines aren’t 100% especially for the elderly or the immunocompromised.https://twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1419027634835578880 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Meaghan Kall @kallmemeg
        So dad asked how can this be? I said - it means the UK vax programme is amazing. He said whaaa❔ So I said first - a given: 📍The vaccine isn’t 100% effective It’s pretty amazing, like 91-98% effective against hospitalisation. But not *perfect*. So you must accept that fact pic.twitter.com/O69ZzYbmda
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      10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 24 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Vincent Rajkumar

        This is a good question. Many nursing homes mandate the flu vaccine. Covid is not less of a risk.https://twitter.com/VincentRK/status/1418648145328852995 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Vincent RajkumarVerified account @VincentRK
        Important: 40% of healthcare workers taking care of the elderly in the US in nursing homes and long term care centers remain unvaccinated. What can be done? Will an approval help with mandates? Who is looking out for these elderly people? @propublica https://www.propublica.org/article/dont-you-work-with-old-people-many-elder-care-workers-still-refuse-to-get-covid-19-vaccine …
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      11. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 25 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bob Wachter

        More, from @Bob_Wachter.https://twitter.com/Bob_Wachter/status/1419515397926133761 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Bob WachterVerified account @Bob_Wachter
        I don’t have the vaccinated/unvaxxed breakdown for today's census, but it’s been running >90% unvaxxed in recent wks. When we do see vaccinated patients in the hospital, many are immunocompromised (a group in which vaccine’s effect is attenuated – we need a new approach). (6/20)
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      12. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

        Earlier thread as reminder: "herd immunity" is neither something easy to calculate (we rarely have random serosurveys), nor a single number that works like a switch (networks are heterogeneous, people's response to an outbreak changes transmission etc...)https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1380146862607511555 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
        Short thread. I keep seeing claims on how some places may have reached herd immunity & calculations on whether a variant is more virulent or disporportionately affects the young etc. These are not easy things to discern so let’s not do confident back-of-the-envelope calculations.
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      13. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Emily Hoeven

        A few states are moving to vaccination or regular testing.https://twitter.com/emily_hoeven/status/1419714899660328970 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Emily HoevenVerified account @emily_hoeven
        BREAKING: @GavinNewsom is set to announce that state employees and all health care workers (public + private employees) must be vaccinated or undergo weekly testing and wear masks.
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        3 replies 25 retweets 155 likes
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      14. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jonathan Lemire

        More.https://twitter.com/JonLemire/status/1419728450621952000 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Jonathan LemireVerified account @JonLemire
        WASHINGTON (AP) — Department of Veterans Affairs requiring all its medical employees to get COVID-19 vaccine as delta variant spreads.
        2 replies 9 retweets 119 likes
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      15. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 Jul 2021

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH

        Some more context. VA is the first federal agency to mandate this vaccine for healthcare workers. (Many hospital systems already mandate influenza vaccines for their staff—hospital employees, necessarily, interact with vulnerable population).https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1419733427247620107 …

        zeynep tufekci added,

        Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPHVerified account @ashishkjha
        I spent the morning at the Providence VA seeing patients Some of them were quite sick and several were immunocompromised To safeguard the health of all our veterans, this move is absolutely essential VA to mandate vaccinations for healthcare workers https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/26/us/politics/veterans-affairs-coronavirus-covid-19.html?smid=tw-share …
        3 replies 11 retweets 74 likes
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