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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Eva Dou

      So glad some journalists are actually following these things up! As far as I can tell, these are only some of the unexplained contradictions/puzzles in the early China cases—to the degree we were told anything. Note these "unintended errors" happened despite minimal data shared.https://twitter.com/evadou/status/1415599354488885248 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Eva DouVerified account @evadou
      The WHO says it‘s revising its coronavirus origin report to fix “unintended errors” in early patient profiles after questions from The Washington Post. But says it cannot explain discrepancy in the location of the earliest official case. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/covid-wuhan-outbreak-who/2021/07/15/51e7e8a6-e2c6-11eb-88c5-4fd6382c47cb_story.html … w/ @emilyrauhala
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2021

      We know the early cases, as reported to us, were missing, incomplete and withheld. We know there are contradictions between earlier papers from Chinese scientists and what later got told to WHO. We know there are missing sequences and papers, even among what little got released.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2021

      If people want to say we're not going to get an investigation—at least with China's cooperation—because of this cover-up, fine. One can still learn lessons. But the idea we're evaluating some actual substantial body of "evidence" from an actual investigation just doesn't hold up.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Emily Rauhala

      For clarity, even after these corrections, there are still contradictions around early cases compared with other papers by Chinese scientists. The WHO report had some data on *just* thirteen early cases, and even that had multiple "unintended errors".https://twitter.com/emilyrauhala/status/1415662357502627842 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Emily RauhalaVerified account @emilyrauhala
      The WHO did not explain why a map in the WHO-China joint report appears to show the first case on one side of the Yangtze River, while the Wuhan government had announced last year that the first patient, who fell ill Dec. 8, 2019, lived on the other side of the river. 3/
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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2021

          (Also many of these contradictions were evident the moment the WHO report was published: March 2020. We *only* got *some* information on a few dozen early cases! Sit down with a spreadsheet for an hour and it's a lot of "huh"? July 2021, and finally getting some reporting on it.)

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2021

          As I said, I don't like probability calculations when there's so little *real* evidence to "calculate" anything with, and so many unresolved questions. But people have leanings and priors. Fine. But it doesn't touch this question: how could the reporting be so minimal? Baffling.

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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Emily Rauhala

          Yeah, there's certainly more. And again, this is about a mere thirteen cases reported to the WHO with some detail (though not even that detailed!) that have multiple "unintended errors" and discrepancies. And this is getting covered only on July of 2021.https://twitter.com/emilyrauhala/status/1415714289751580672 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Emily RauhalaVerified account @emilyrauhala
          Indeed. FWIW, the WHO is still reviewing another possible discrepancy we flagged on an early case. It is another example of different data in joint report vs. Chinese sources and we hope to learn more soon. https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1415711340195454979 …
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        5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted hx

          Point out what minimal information we've been given is full of contradictions and errors *and* there's clearly on ongoing and extensive cover-up, someone always retorts "conspiracy theory!" It's the way Trump yelled "fake news!" at anything he didn't like.https://twitter.com/hx81342240/status/1415719587073560584 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          hx @hx81342240
          Replying to @zeynep @emilyrauhala
          Whenever the daily case numbers in America are going up, there will be some new kinds of conspiracy theories coming out like this.
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