Skip to content
  • Home Home Home, current page.
  • Moments Moments Moments, current page.

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Language: English
    • Bahasa Indonesia
    • Bahasa Melayu
    • Català
    • Čeština
    • Dansk
    • Deutsch
    • English UK
    • Español
    • Filipino
    • Français
    • Hrvatski
    • Italiano
    • Magyar
    • Nederlands
    • Norsk
    • Polski
    • Português
    • Română
    • Slovenčina
    • Suomi
    • Svenska
    • Tiếng Việt
    • Türkçe
    • Ελληνικά
    • Български език
    • Русский
    • Српски
    • Українська мова
    • עִבְרִית
    • العربية
    • فارسی
    • मराठी
    • हिन्दी
    • বাংলা
    • ગુજરાતી
    • தமிழ்
    • ಕನ್ನಡ
    • ภาษาไทย
    • 한국어
    • 日本語
    • 简体中文
    • 繁體中文
  • Have an account? Log in
    Have an account?
    · Forgot password?

    New to Twitter?
    Sign up
zeynep's profile
zeynep tufekci
zeynep tufekci
zeynep tufekci
Verified account
@zeynep

Tweets

zeynep tufekciVerified account

@zeynep

Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

floating in a most peculiar way
theinsight.org
Joined August 2009

Tweets

  • © 2022 Twitter
  • About
  • Help Center
  • Terms
  • Privacy policy
  • Cookies
  • Ads info
Dismiss
Previous
Next

Go to a person's profile

Saved searches

  • Remove
  • In this conversation
    Verified accountProtected Tweets @
Suggested users
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @
  • Verified accountProtected Tweets @

Promote this Tweet

Block

  • Tweet with a location

    You can add location information to your Tweets, such as your city or precise location, from the web and via third-party applications. You always have the option to delete your Tweet location history. Learn more

    Your lists

    Create a new list


    Under 100 characters, optional

    Privacy

    Copy link to Tweet

    Embed this Tweet

    Embed this Video

    Add this Tweet to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Add this video to your website by copying the code below. Learn more

    Hmm, there was a problem reaching the server.

    By embedding Twitter content in your website or app, you are agreeing to the Twitter Developer Agreement and Developer Policy.

    Preview

    Why you're seeing this ad

    Log in to Twitter

    · Forgot password?
    Don't have an account? Sign up »

    Sign up for Twitter

    Not on Twitter? Sign up, tune into the things you care about, and get updates as they happen.

    Sign up
    Have an account? Log in »

    Two-way (sending and receiving) short codes:

    Country Code For customers of
    United States 40404 (any)
    Canada 21212 (any)
    United Kingdom 86444 Vodafone, Orange, 3, O2
    Brazil 40404 Nextel, TIM
    Haiti 40404 Digicel, Voila
    Ireland 51210 Vodafone, O2
    India 53000 Bharti Airtel, Videocon, Reliance
    Indonesia 89887 AXIS, 3, Telkomsel, Indosat, XL Axiata
    Italy 4880804 Wind
    3424486444 Vodafone
    » See SMS short codes for other countries

    Confirmation

     

    Welcome home!

    This timeline is where you’ll spend most of your time, getting instant updates about what matters to you.

    Tweets not working for you?

    Hover over the profile pic and click the Following button to unfollow any account.

    Say a lot with a little

    When you see a Tweet you love, tap the heart — it lets the person who wrote it know you shared the love.

    Spread the word

    The fastest way to share someone else’s Tweet with your followers is with a Retweet. Tap the icon to send it instantly.

    Join the conversation

    Add your thoughts about any Tweet with a Reply. Find a topic you’re passionate about, and jump right in.

    Learn the latest

    Get instant insight into what people are talking about now.

    Get more of what you love

    Follow more accounts to get instant updates about topics you care about.

    Find what's happening

    See the latest conversations about any topic instantly.

    Never miss a Moment

    Catch up instantly on the best stories happening as they unfold.

    1. Alina Chan‏Verified account @Ayjchan 7 Jul 2021

      So... in other words, more of the same research (any new regulation?) that didn't help to prevent or find a cure or vaccine to this pandemic, but might have even potentially caused it. Will the funders actually have an excel spreadsheet tracking the pathogen samples this time?

      3 replies 14 retweets 87 likes
      Show this thread
    2. Alina Chan‏Verified account @Ayjchan 7 Jul 2021

      This situation... Virologists say that virologists are unlikely to have caused the pandemic. Virologists say that more virology (and more funding for virologists) is needed to prevent a future pandemic.

      18 replies 30 retweets 156 likes
      Show this thread
    3. Çağrı Mert Bakırcı‏Verified account @cagrimbakirci 10 Jul 2021
      Replying to @Ayjchan

      Oof there are so many logical fallacies in one short thread that it's hurting my head. It's not impossible that it leaked, it is just more probable that it is natural, as most viruses are. So the burden of proof is on those who claim this virus is "special".

      7 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Jul 2021
      Replying to @cagrimbakirci @Ayjchan

      How are you making that calculation? Just baffles me that people confidently make such claims based on little verifiable evidence—even most basic early outbreak data has been withheld, censored and/or is inconsistent and contradictory. We don’t know much is an honest answer.

      5 replies 9 retweets 59 likes
    5. Çağrı Mert Bakırcı‏Verified account @cagrimbakirci 10 Jul 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @Ayjchan

      I agree we don't know much is the honest answer. This thread is not saying that. Ergo, it's a bad take. And in uncertainty, it is better to go with the more plausible explanation than a wilder one. The calculation comes from statistical probability of evolved viruses vs. leaked.

      9 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. sedat kapanoğlu‏Verified account @esesci 10 Jul 2021
      Replying to @cagrimbakirci @zeynep @Ayjchan

      doesn't a probability assessment like this require some kind of normalization?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Jul 2021
      Replying to @esesci @cagrimbakirci @Ayjchan

      At a minimum I’d encourage people to take the epidemiological data published by Chinese scientists in January/February of 2020, try to match it to what’s been told to WHO a year later, notice how much is withheld and contradictory before confidently claiming what’s “more likely”.

      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    8. Çağrı Mert Bakırcı‏Verified account @cagrimbakirci 10 Jul 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @esesci @Ayjchan

      Isn't this the case for *anything* with China? They do not release the outcomes of rocket flights until after success. I'm not saying a lab leak cannot happen, of course it can. I am saying "discrepancy" is little evidence (if any) under these circumstances.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    9. Lab leak‏ @lab_leak 10 Jul 2021
      Replying to @cagrimbakirci @zeynep and

      Exactly.. This is why it is not right to assign probability estimates to hypotheses without more info..

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    10. Çağrı Mert Bakırcı‏Verified account @cagrimbakirci 10 Jul 2021
      Replying to @lab_leak @zeynep and

      Sure. But the "working hypothesis" would be natural cause, instead of randomly pointing fingers. The original thread even attacks those who want more regulation for being incompetent!

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 10 Jul 2021
      Replying to @cagrimbakirci @lab_leak and

      Working hypothesis should be there is an extensive and sustained cover-up, and people should refrain from making broad statistical claims in such a situation. Generalities aren’t illuminating.

      11:13 AM - 10 Jul 2021
      • 3 Retweets
      • 10 Likes
      • Bassaces Eric Walker WhatsInWuchang John Muller Lab BlockedByAVirologist Big Dick Lab leak
      1 reply 3 retweets 10 likes
        1. Çağrı Mert Bakırcı‏Verified account @cagrimbakirci 10 Jul 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @lab_leak and

          I mean, a subset of researchers can have that working hypothesis to prove or disprove it with data but claiming the default position of the scientific community (or the people in general) to do so is ridiculous. It just begs the question especially when so little evidence exists.

          0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
          Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. Undo
          Undo

      Loading seems to be taking a while.

      Twitter may be over capacity or experiencing a momentary hiccup. Try again or visit Twitter Status for more information.

        Promoted Tweet

        false

        • © 2022 Twitter
        • About
        • Help Center
        • Terms
        • Privacy policy
        • Cookies
        • Ads info