h/t @Akselfrids for writing an article pointing out the WIV paper and thesis stating that their live virus SARSrCoV work was performed at BSL2.
https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1397877973404065793 …pic.twitter.com/ef4D2x9cky
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h/t @Akselfrids for writing an article pointing out the WIV paper and thesis stating that their live virus SARSrCoV work was performed at BSL2.
https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1397877973404065793 …pic.twitter.com/ef4D2x9cky
English version of the @Minervanett article: "The PhD dissertation, however, clearly states that the proliferation and cell infection experiments of live viruses (including recombinant viruses) were performed in a BSL2 (Biosafety level 2) laboratory."https://www.minervanett.no/china-drastic-sars-cov-2/chinese-researchers-created-new-corona-viruses-under-unsafe-conditions/381476 …
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Some are asking for better regulation of pathogen research regardless of Covid origins. I'm with you, but it seems like it's not moving the leaders who have the authority and power to push for those regulations. Their strategy is MORE pathogen research.https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1369824489505177600 …
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MORE pandemic preparedness by conducting MORE virus hunting and pathogen research across MORE countries. *Biosafety level is determined by the country where the research is conducted.https://twitter.com/Ayjchan/status/1409883516247158789 …
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The same type of research was again funded through EcoHealth Alliance but now done outside of China; project start 2020-06-17
https://grantome.com/grant/NIH/U01-AI151797-01 …So... in other words, more of the same research (any new regulation?) that didn't help to prevent or find a cure or vaccine to this pandemic, but might have even potentially caused it. Will the funders actually have an excel spreadsheet tracking the pathogen samples this time?
This situation... Virologists say that virologists are unlikely to have caused the pandemic. Virologists say that more virology (and more funding for virologists) is needed to prevent a future pandemic.
Oof there are so many logical fallacies in one short thread that it's hurting my head. It's not impossible that it leaked, it is just more probable that it is natural, as most viruses are. So the burden of proof is on those who claim this virus is "special".
How are you making that calculation? Just baffles me that people confidently make such claims based on little verifiable evidence—even most basic early outbreak data has been withheld, censored and/or is inconsistent and contradictory. We don’t know much is an honest answer.
I agree we don't know much is the honest answer. This thread is not saying that. Ergo, it's a bad take. And in uncertainty, it is better to go with the more plausible explanation than a wilder one. The calculation comes from statistical probability of evolved viruses vs. leaked.
doesn't a probability assessment like this require some kind of normalization?
At a minimum I’d encourage people to take the epidemiological data published by Chinese scientists in January/February of 2020, try to match it to what’s been told to WHO a year later, notice how much is withheld and contradictory before confidently claiming what’s “more likely”.
Isn't this the case for *anything* with China? They do not release the outcomes of rocket flights until after success. I'm not saying a lab leak cannot happen, of course it can. I am saying "discrepancy" is little evidence (if any) under these circumstances.
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