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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bloom Lab

      Wowze. More🤯.https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407445604029009923 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Bloom Lab @jbloom_lab
      In a new study, I identify and recover a deleted set of #SARSCoV2 sequences that provide additional information about viruses from the early Wuhan outbreak: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.18.449051v1 … (1/n)
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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Jasnah Kholin - 8964 - ACAB -  💉 💉

      Obviously true. Most scientists in authoritarian settings are just unfree, not unscientist. But there *also* are scientists wrapped up with the regime—as everywhere— so the assumption orders are just crude and from stupid bureaucrats is also not warranted.https://twitter.com/wanderer_jasnah/status/1407495160502620160 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Jasnah Kholin - 8964 - ACAB -  💉 💉 @wanderer_jasnah
      Replying to @macroliter
      decision to upload was done by doctors / scientists doing their jobs, decision to delete was done by central party decree / order is my guess.
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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021

      One of the biggest misunderstanding about enduring authoritarian regimes is that the people in charge are uniformly stupid and crude, no smart/educated person advising them/is one of them. Obviously, this wouldn't work for long. But also: their regular people are regular people!

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021

      Deletion aside: @Jbloom_lab paper strongly suggests the Huanan seafood market wasn't the origin location. Brings me to something I wrote this week: the recent WHO report excluded cases earlier than seafood market outbreak in a way I can't make sense of. https://www.theinsight.org/p/bring-back-the-weekly-newspaper …pic.twitter.com/rQx4nAndKs

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021

      Jan 2020 Lancet paper by Chinese scientists has three cases *earlier* than the market outbreak, says all confirmed by RT-PCR. A year later, WHO excludes three early December cases based clinical findings like "responded to antibiotics." What about those PCR confirmations?pic.twitter.com/SX436JPCNd

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021

          Also, interesting week to have written this in my newsletter. The seafood market as an amplifying event (first big outbreak) with virus circulation earlier in Wuhan has always been possible from what data we did have (even with the Lancet/WHO confusion). https://www.theinsight.org/p/bring-back-the-weekly-newspaper …pic.twitter.com/XKQjlIKgVQ

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          And this is how it would unfold, next, in some parts of the world... (Sorry, sorry, gallows humor. Middle Eastern thing).https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1407535307755511808 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          Replying to @zeynep @Fullyfallible and 2 others
          If it were the Middle East, or Belarus, I guess, a slightly disheveled bat would soon appear on TV, with a *very* sincere confession—that it is in no way reading off the teleprompter. Just decided to come clean on that recombination, guilty conscience. Only wishes to apologize!
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        4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021

          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bloom Lab

          Addendum to the deleted sequences. And see up thread on why the "it's all just crude, knee-jerk censorship" assertions aren't very smart. Some steps may be so, but clearly other targeted, deliberate steps are taken, too. Analysis of specifics>generalities.https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407542297659514886 …

          zeynep tufekci added,

          Bloom Lab @jbloom_lab
          It turns out that mention of the sequencing project in question (PRJNA612766) also disappeared from China National GeneBank (CNGB) shortly after it was removed from the NIH Sequence Read Archive. (2/n)
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        1. The Dude‏ @the__dude98 22 Jun 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          This was all reported by the SCMP (lol)

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        1. Haydar Khan‏ @HaydarK23190691 22 Jun 2021
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          Curious to see what happens after the following is peer reviewedhttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.13.20129627v1 …

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        1. Alex Merz‏ @Merz 22 Jun 2021
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          That depends crucially on the quality of the PCR assays then in use.

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        1. Starving Engineer‏ @edw_tweet 23 Jun 2021
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          False positives (base rate fallacy)?

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        2. Paul Matheny‏ @PaulMatheny1 23 Jun 2021
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          Maybe I am missing something, but isn't it possible the three excluded cases were part of the "59 initially suspected cases" and not a subset of the 41 confirmed cases by PCR?

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 23 Jun 2021
          Replying to @PaulMatheny1

          Then where are they in the WHO report? There were multiple cases all *PCR-confirmed*, as per Lancet article, before the first-known seafood market linked case. Now they aren’t included. We then have WHO report talking about clinically excluded cases. I couldn’t make sense of it.

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