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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Bloom Lab

      Wowze. More🤯.https://twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407445604029009923 …

      zeynep tufekci added,

      Bloom Lab @jbloom_lab
      In a new study, I identify and recover a deleted set of #SARSCoV2 sequences that provide additional information about viruses from the early Wuhan outbreak: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.18.449051v1 … (1/n)
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    2. RGI‏ @RGI83 22 Jun 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      Odds of lab leak just rose.

      3 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    3. Tony "tshirtist in chief" Tribby  🇺🇸‏ @tonytribby 22 Jun 2021
      Replying to @RGI83 @zeynep

      Not at all. The sequences in question are all collected from people in places like the Wuhan market where the outbreak is thought to have started, and nearby neighborhoods. This has nothing to do with the Wuhan lab.

      1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
    4. RGI‏ @RGI83 22 Jun 2021
      Replying to @tonytribby @zeynep

      RGI Retweeted Scott Gottlieb, MD

      https://twitter.com/scottgottliebmd/status/1407454533190668289 …

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    5. Tony "tshirtist in chief" Tribby  🇺🇸‏ @tonytribby 22 Jun 2021
      Replying to @RGI83 @zeynep

      The problem here is that the Chinese government acts this way about *everything*. The doctor in China who first tried to warn people there was an outbreak was disciplined for doing so. It doesn't mean there was a lab leak, more likely they fear being sanctioned for negligence.

      1 reply 1 retweet 14 likes
    6. D.L.‏ @dlee 22 Jun 2021
      Replying to @tonytribby @RGI83 @zeynep

      I agree, to me this data makes it more likely that the progenitor was a random mutation/recombination event, given the number of coronaviruses already in circulation in the area.

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    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021
      Replying to @dlee @tonytribby @RGI83

      What bat coronaviruses circulating in the area? Amazing how people make stuff up. When Dr. Shi needed people not negative for bat coronaviruses to use as negative control, they used the Wuhan population exactly because of lack of bat exposure. The amount of misinformation....

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    8. D.L.‏ @dlee 22 Jun 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @tonytribby @RGI83

      Ecohealth Alliance and Duke-NUS found bat coronaviruses in caves in Hubei back in 2007. Presumably it’s still there.

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    9. D.L.‏ @dlee 22 Jun 2021
      Replying to @dlee @zeynep and

      Correction - Linfa Wang wasn’t at Duke-NUS yet, he was in Hong Kong.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 22 Jun 2021
      Replying to @dlee @tonytribby @RGI83

      Wuhan IS A MODERN CITY OF ELEVEN MILLION, not some bat habitat area. Again: when the Wuhan lab researchers need people not exposed to bat viruses to use as control against people who may be... They use the population of Wuhan. The pretzeling about this has been pretty impressive.

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        2. D.L.‏ @dlee 22 Jun 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @tonytribby @RGI83

          Singapore is too, but you can field trap bats there & do virology studies. Urban populations will definitely have lower exposure per capita, but not zero.

          3 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
        3. D.L.‏ @dlee 22 Jun 2021
          Replying to @dlee @zeynep and

          The 2018 WIV paper essentially uses the Wuhan population as a pool to set a detection threshold at +3 std dev, but doesn’t report on whether that pool was itself tested, or whether any of those sera came close to the detection level.

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