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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    2.  🌙Radical Dreamingnoctis ⭐ 🔞Conflict avoidant cutie‏ @dreamingnoctis 17 Jun 2021
      Replying to @nberlat

      There’s certainly this, and I think there’s a distinct set of sub-explanations for why some pundits specifically are so fixated on it. I actually think their obsession and overall behavior is an interesting case study that reveals just a LOT of problems in “big name” journalism.

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    4.  🌙Radical Dreamingnoctis ⭐ 🔞Conflict avoidant cutie‏ @dreamingnoctis 17 Jun 2021
      Replying to @mssilverstein @nberlat

      And a few personal grudges. I keep banging this drum, but I dont want this to be forgotten; yglesias, silver, etc. got in to a huge argument on here last june with health experts who were pushing back on their very questionable takes, and a lot of their commentary on both this-

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    5.  🌙Radical Dreamingnoctis ⭐ 🔞Conflict avoidant cutie‏ @dreamingnoctis 17 Jun 2021
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      -and the “liberals who cant quit the pandemic” stuff seems to be very much rooted in a grudge over that fight. These people played a pivotal role in pushing lab leak stuff, and there’s every reason to believe it was primarily due to personal pettiness and anger.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Jun 2021
      Replying to @mssilverstein @nberlat and

      Well, I think the question of pandemic origins is a super important, is not a conspiracy theory to consider lab involvement, and I do not understand this obsession to declare it a conspiracy theory when some of the most important scientists are calling for an investigation.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Jun 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mssilverstein and

          And it's not just some "blame game", it has really important implications for the future even if you declared it a "no blame" investigation, like the NTSB does its. I honestly do not understand how this isn't obvious, and shocked at how polarization blocks all requisite analysis.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 17 Jun 2021
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          Just chiming since I was tagged! The complete dismissal of a very real and important issue as conspiracy theory or a mere blame game simply because *some* people, dunno like Mucker Tarlson types, are saying really stupid things about it seems, well, misguided to me. My two cents.

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        2.  🌙Radical Dreamingnoctis ⭐ 🔞Conflict avoidant cutie‏ @dreamingnoctis 17 Jun 2021
          Replying to @mssilverstein @zeynep and

          And a number of pundits not making a huge distinction between these, because they're using this whole thing as a proxy for larger ideological fights about other things.

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        2.  🌙Radical Dreamingnoctis ⭐ 🔞Conflict avoidant cutie‏ @dreamingnoctis 17 Jun 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @mssilverstein and

          My specific issue is that people like Yglesias and Silver began pushing "lab leak" and chiding anyone who doubted it, despite there not being any clear for them to suddenly take it more seriously than six or seven months prior. Indeed, the whole argument on it has, it seems,-

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        3.  🌙Radical Dreamingnoctis ⭐ 🔞Conflict avoidant cutie‏ @dreamingnoctis 17 Jun 2021
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          -more or less operated as if there was some serious new smoking gun which should make people consider it much more seriously than before. Yet no one was really able to point to anything especially clear cut that fit that bill.

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