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    1. Eric Feigl-Ding‏Verified account @DrEricDing 14 Jun 2021

      So, vaccines good against hospitalizations, yes, but not when just 1 dose against #DeltaVariant, not when <50% fully vaxxed. Despite new controversial case-control efficacy study (very small & assumption laden)—🇬🇧hospital #COVID19 surges just don’t lie.🧵 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/993805/2021-06-14_COVID-19_Press_Conference_Slides.pdf …pic.twitter.com/S9zmXacm0l

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    2. Eric Feigl-Ding‏Verified account @DrEricDing 14 Jun 2021

      2) Note how much weaker 1 dose is versus 2 doses for the #DeltaVariant for both infection and hospitalization.pic.twitter.com/OYefZNc5cN

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Jun 2021
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      zeynep tufekci Retweeted zeynep tufekci

      But there’s also all this (the whole thread). Conditional probabilities and the denominator is important here.https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1404291626231603202 …

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      zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
      This is subtle, but important. Vaccination patterns changes conditional probabilities. In the UK, the people most prone to succumb to COVID, even if vaccinated, or even to common cold—yes, common colds can be fatal to the elderly—are the very people most likely to be vaccinated. https://twitter.com/BristOliver/status/1403984975788228611 …
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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 14 Jun 2021
      Replying to @zeynep @DrEricDing

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Adithya Ramachandran

      This example, reductio ad absurdum but in reverse, might help think it through better. The vaccinated in UK are, necessarily, those who are more vulnerable so can’t do simple before/after calculations from hospitalizations.https://twitter.com/AdithyaR_YXE/status/1404292264852037632 …

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      Adithya Ramachandran @AdithyaR_YXE
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      This is a good point, and this is also why the stat "29% of Delta deaths in the UK were vaccinated" is impossible to interpret on its own. If 100% of people were vaxxed, 100% of deaths would be of vaxxed as well.
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