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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Jun 2021

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted Meaghan Kall

      If you’re watching the UK data, please note the below. Deaths among the vaccinated are very rare, and as the thread makes clear, even some of those were people already hospitalized, testing positive perhaps incidentally. Some, especially elderly or very ill, succumb to illness.https://twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1403353574277582849 …

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      Meaghan Kall @kallmemeg
      I see people stressing about vaccination death data due to some unclear #scicomms on here... So here it is: we know of 33,206 cases of Delta variant (28,917 with vax info) 1,785 were fully vaccinated and *still* got infected (6.2% of cases) Of these 1,785, 12 died (0.7%)
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    2. #MasksInSchools Dr Noor Bari‏ @NjbBari3 11 Jun 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      It’s still too early to see what the death count will really look like, as you know there is a lag. All we can tell from this data so far is that being vaccinated (?which) partially vaccinated & unvaccinated comes with a risk of death so we expect an exit wave of excess death.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Jun 2021
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      Still severe disease or worse will be much less among the vaccinated, and no vaccine protects the elderly completely—OC43 is a risk to that population. We should warn people, of course, but without miscommunicating the very real protections vaccines offer, compared to baseline.

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        1. #MasksInSchools Dr Noor Bari‏ @NjbBari3 11 Jun 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          Which population? Do you have the age stratification data? I haven’t seen it.🙋🏾‍♀️

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        1. Matt Butler‏ @mjb302 11 Jun 2021
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          Elderly may need boosters. This will require a rethink of our "all adults by end Aug" target if they start to feature more heavily than govt "comfortable with" in these early mortality figures. If we reduced transmission by retreating to step 2 in UK many more lives saved.

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        2. John Tuesday‏ @Frugal_Saver 11 Jun 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @NjbBari3

          We actually don't reliably know how much less death will be seen among the elderly. This is "The Real Test." Let's not ignore the marked discrepancy between AZ vaccine effectiveness observed in South Africa vs. observed in the UK. It matters that AZ is a British multinational.

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        3. John Tuesday‏ @Frugal_Saver 11 Jun 2021
          Replying to @Frugal_Saver @zeynep @NjbBari3

          PHE will report the data. But you must be naive to believe that corporate/political pressure won't weigh on that data reporting. Everyone should get vaccinated with whatever is available. But, not all vaccines are equally effective. A fully impartial jury would be desirable

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