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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 11 Jun 2021

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Meaghan Kall

    If you’re watching the UK data, please note the below. Deaths among the vaccinated are very rare, and as the thread makes clear, even some of those were people already hospitalized, testing positive perhaps incidentally. Some, especially elderly or very ill, succumb to illness.https://twitter.com/kallmemeg/status/1403353574277582849 …

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    Meaghan Kall @kallmemeg
    I see people stressing about vaccination death data due to some unclear #scicomms on here... So here it is: we know of 33,206 cases of Delta variant (28,917 with vax info) 1,785 were fully vaccinated and *still* got infected (6.2% of cases) Of these 1,785, 12 died (0.7%)
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    • Nora Rawn Elizabeth Angell Rick Gigger 💉💉💉 Oliver Omicronwell Katherine Cross ... Gavin Williamson Malcolm Chisholm Steph Powers
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      2. Alice‏ @Cererean 11 Jun 2021

        Yup. 50-66% effective at blocking the original strain, so even if everyone was vaccinated with it we wouldnt have herd immunity But vaccine induced herd immunity was never the goal here. It was to get to a point where letting it rip wouldn't be disastrous

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      1. Adithya Ramachandran‏ @AdithyaR_YXE 11 Jun 2021
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        Influenza and even the common cold CoVs have caused fatal outbreaks in the very vulnerable. Those are our benchmarks. I'd be interested in seeing detailed IFR stats comparing those two with vaccinated Covid.

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      2. AnotherBrian‏ @newordermarket 11 Jun 2021
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        If you are watching the UK data, you should have a drink and relax, there is nothing to see there. Case rises for a highly vaccinated country are meaningless. If we assume the vaccines work, there is zero chance anything approaching 2020 happens

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      3. Ofer Neiman #SaveBeita Universal Basic Income‏ @ofer_n 11 Jun 2021
        Replying to @newordermarket @zeynep

        Not quite. The percentage of double-dose vaccination in the UK is quite low.

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      1. Hyacinth Bucket 💉 💉 💉 🇨🇦‏ @bucketwoman0 11 Jun 2021
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        Did they report their age/comorbidities such as immune compromised, or vaccine type?

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      1. Mugdha Myers‏ @mugdha_myers 11 Jun 2021
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        Thanks! Do we know anything about the effect on kids?

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      1. Dr Christine Peters‏ @microlabdoc 11 Jun 2021
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        Watching the data avidly. Am thinking big q is are those post vaccine cases driving unvaccinated cases in chains of transmission ?

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      1. John Tuesday‏ @Frugal_Saver 11 Jun 2021
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        "Deaths ...were [sometimes] people already hospitalized, testing positive perhaps incidentally." Bad strategy to adopt the slippery rhetoric of anti-lockdown crowd to cover up that AZ is an inferior vaccine. We must vaccinate with what's available, but don't cover-up reality.

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      2. #MasksInSchools Dr Noor Bari‏ @NjbBari3 11 Jun 2021
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        It’s still too early to see what the death count will really look like, as you know there is a lag. All we can tell from this data so far is that being vaccinated (?which) partially vaccinated & unvaccinated comes with a risk of death so we expect an exit wave of excess death.

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      3. #MasksInSchools Dr Noor Bari‏ @NjbBari3 11 Jun 2021
        Replying to @NjbBari3 @zeynep

        Sadly, we will find out exactly what this will look like, as people are in such a rush to unmask and spread disease. No appetite for #TargetingZero🦠🥺

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