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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 29 May 2021

      If we can make billions of doses of mRNA vaccines, let's go. If the choice is none vs any vaccine, real life data says *any* vaccine will help prevent deaths. I'm not advocating for a singular path. WHATEVER WE CAN DO AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. That is our global moral responsibility.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jun 2021

      Remember the freak out over Seychelles because, despite widespread vaccination with AstraZeneca and Sinopharm, it had an increase cases (though mostly among the unvaccinated)? They had 14 deaths total for all of May, as far as I know none among the vaccinated. Vaccines work.pic.twitter.com/wVerUkmo1c

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jun 2021
      Replying to @PsyberAttack

      They had an outbreak mostly among the remaining unvaccinated, people started reasoning from that the vaccines weren't working because the vaccinated had some cases, too. Thread of carnage among the unvaccinated *is* the point of my piece, along with why vaccines are the answer.

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jun 2021
      Replying to @PsyberAttack

      That's not what herd immunity means.

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    8. Joy Jan‏ @JoyJan15 1 Jun 2021
      Replying to @PsyberAttack @zeynep

      Herd immunity: "resistance to the spread of an infectious disease within a population that is based on pre-existing immunity of a high proportion of individuals as a result of previous infection or vaccination." If vaccines don't provide suff immunity to prevent transmission 1/2

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    9. Joy Jan‏ @JoyJan15 1 Jun 2021
      Replying to @JoyJan15 @PsyberAttack @zeynep

      then herd immunity can't be achieved through vaccines. Your point is spot on -- she's just avoiding it.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jun 2021
      Replying to @JoyJan15 @PsyberAttack

      I try to avoid stupid Twitter, but it sometimes finds me, like Joy. Psyber: the problem there is "herd immunity" will not stop an outbreak among the unvaccinated even after the calculated threshold, which is an abstract number to begin with not a binary gate, would be reached.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 1 Jun 2021
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      You can, of course, reach herd immunity especially with the vaccines we have, but you can still have outbreaks among unvaxxed. It's true that vaccines that allow more breakthrough cases may allow more transmission, but not the case with most ones we have, need more data on rest.

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