Ah, Alex shows up. Predictable rituals of life. I do want more data on the two vaccines from China, and the efficacy of both against symptomatic breakthroughs is lower. But from all real life data we have, they both greatly help prevent severe disease. https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1398743127876374531 …
I try to avoid stupid Twitter, but it sometimes finds me, like Joy. Psyber: the problem there is "herd immunity" will not stop an outbreak among the unvaccinated even after the calculated threshold, which is an abstract number to begin with not a binary gate, would be reached.
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You can, of course, reach herd immunity especially with the vaccines we have, but you can still have outbreaks among unvaxxed. It's true that vaccines that allow more breakthrough cases may allow more transmission, but not the case with most ones we have, need more data on rest.
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