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    3. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 26 May 2021
      Replying to @zeynep

      It's correct there are not a lot of bats in Wuhan, which is a city of 11 million people and a major transportation hub. Zoonotic spillover can happen anywhere that animals are transported, including distant major cities. SARS started in Guangdong, far from Yunnan.

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    4. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 26 May 2021
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen @zeynep

      So despite the distance, it's still not any more surprising to see a zoonotic outbreak occur in Wuhan than it was when it happened in Guangzhou. And it's Dr. Shi...Zhengli is her given name, not her family name.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 May 2021
      Replying to @angie_rasmussen

      I'm not asking about zoonosis emergence. My question is this claim: "researchers put a zoonotic disease laboratory in a place where a lot of zoonotic disease crossovers were happening." It is a very specific claim about location selection and I'd love to see a source for it.

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        2. Andy Schmidt‏ @andyaschmidt 26 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen

          Presumably the Chinese government knows the answer. So this might be the best case scenario where they will tighten up wet markets to avoid blame while also tightening up lab security quietly. Both desperately need to happen.

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        3. Illegal Emigrant‏ @Illegalemigran1 27 May 2021
          Replying to @andyaschmidt @zeynep @angie_rasmussen

          they do know the ansewr, they did copious environmental sampling of the area and turned-up... absolutely nothing.

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        2. Dr. Angela Rasmussen‏Verified account @angie_rasmussen 26 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep

          That's not why Wuhan was selected, but the claim isn't necessarily about Wuhan. The modern WIV was built to address zoonotic emergence in China. In that sense, the location is important because Wuhan is a major air and rail hub and is centrally located.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 26 May 2021
          Replying to @angie_rasmussen

          She replied, seems it was misstated a bit. (And she'd muted the thread so did not see my question to her).

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        1. Illegal Emigrant‏ @Illegalemigran1 27 May 2021
          Replying to @zeynep @angie_rasmussen

          there are absolutely no documented, or suspected, zoonotic crossovers happening in Wuhan. It was used as a negative control in a crossover study.

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